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Old 04-09-14, 07:54 AM   #276
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Weekly Motor-pacing and focus more on pure high-speed stuff now - 3 weeks to nationals!
lots of people lying on the floor after 9x flying 500s last night
How much time in between them?
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Old 04-09-14, 08:54 AM   #277
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How much time in between them?
Batch of three, with 4 or 5 min between those, then a proper break of 20-25 min before the next 3. Rinse and repeat.

The group is fairly big, so the coach partners up 3 or 4 of similar speed, 3 or 4 bike lengths apart. Gives you a nice rabbit to chase (or makes you a nice rabbit). Good way of making sure all the stops come out.
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Old 04-09-14, 09:43 AM   #278
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Batch of three, with 4 or 5 min between those, then a proper break of 20-25 min before the next 3. Rinse and repeat.

The group is fairly big, so the coach partners up 3 or 4 of similar speed, 3 or 4 bike lengths apart. Gives you a nice rabbit to chase (or makes you a nice rabbit). Good way of making sure all the stops come out.
That sounds like a killer workout.
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Old 04-09-14, 01:49 PM   #279
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That sounds like a killer workout.
Definitely killer. Guys throwing up has happened recently. Our coach is fondly (?) known as Dr Death haha!
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Old 04-09-14, 09:23 PM   #280
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Soooo this popped up on the local craigslist today
Like new Fuji Pro Track Bike 54 cm

Going to check it out in person tomorrow. I was going to go another route but... this seems like a good intro if I can make it happen.
Thoughts??
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Old 04-09-14, 09:53 PM   #281
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We have a lot of them at our track, a good budget frame I think. Price is good too, probably as cheap as a built bike gets without going steel. Do it.
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Old 04-09-14, 10:18 PM   #282
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Soooo this popped up on the local craigslist today
Like new Fuji Pro Track Bike 54 cm

Going to check it out in person tomorrow. I was going to go another route but... this seems like a good intro if I can make it happen.
Thoughts??
thats a good deal for all that IMHO.
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Old 04-09-14, 10:27 PM   #283
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Soooo this popped up on the local craigslist today
Like new Fuji Pro Track Bike 54 cm

Going to check it out in person tomorrow. I was going to go another route but... this seems like a good intro if I can make it happen.
Thoughts??
Pass on it. If it is the 2010/2011 Fuji Track pro, it has an integrated seatpost with a seatmast topper that slips.



So, if it's cut too short, you are out of luck.

The 2007/2008 Fuji Track Pro is a MUCH better option, and cheaper.



Notice the standard seatpost.
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Old 04-10-14, 08:47 AM   #284
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Ive never noticed the seatmast, I must be thinking of the other Fuji bikes (they make a lot). I would think he would mention it in the ad since as Carleton noted if its cut too short for you thats it.
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Old 04-10-14, 08:57 AM   #285
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Pass on it. If it is the 2010/2011 Fuji Track pro, it has an integrated seatpost with a seatmast topper that slips.

So, if it's cut too short, you are out of luck.

The 2007/2008 Fuji Track Pro is a MUCH better option, and cheaper.

Notice the standard seatpost.
Well, that's disappointing. I'm going to try and make it by there later today to confirm that it's this type of post. Womp, womp, wommmmmmp
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Ive never noticed the seatmast, I must be thinking of the other Fuji bikes (they make a lot). I would think he would mention it in the ad since as Carleton noted if its cut too short for you thats it.
Even if it's not cut too short, that's a bad seatpost design.

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the seatmast is cut to a certain height but then the seat clamp has about an inch and a half of space inbetween the top of the two bolts and the top of the clamp

http://iucycling.com/_.htaccess/500/...st_Closeup.jpg

that space is supposed to be for fine tuning to give you a little bit of adjustability if you change your saddle or crank length. Problem is, it doesn't work and the only safe way to use it is to slam the clamp all the way down onto the seatmast and then tighten it, so that they mast takes a lot of the force of you sitting and the bolts don't have to clamp so hard. basically, they made the clamp mechanism too loose around the mast and it doesn't adjust at all, it just sits on top so the only means of adjusting is by cutting the seatmast, which has to happen right the first time and then can't be raised up if you, say, get shorter crank arms. I plan on measuring it out with 165's and a tall saddle like the turbo, that way I'm only increasing my knee bend if i switch to my arione and 165's, and not by that much. i'd rather have a saddle that's too low than too high. hyperextended knees are unhappy.
From this thread: Nashbar Fuji Track Pro

The seat mast topper sucks and the one-bolt saddle rail clamp system sucks. Pick your poison.

I wouldn't recommend it.
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If I ever found myself with a Fuji Track Pro, I'd want a new fork for it. It's got a 74 or 75 degree headtube, but a 45mm-raked fork - which gives a trail measurement in the 40s. That's really really low.

Most road or track bikes, have trail measurements from the mid-50s to the mid-60s. Sprint bikes, with steeper head tube angles, use low-rakes forks to accomplish this. Combining a steep HTA with a road-raked fork is confusing and seems like lazy rather than thoughtful production.
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Old 04-10-14, 10:20 AM   #288
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The Fuji TP with the seatmast has a trail in the mid-60's.

I loved mine (2009 model, with the corrected chainstay). Even though it was "entry level", I'd probably still be on it if it had been a touch bigger. You can get the seatmast cap to stick, but it's really better off if you cut it so that it sits all the way down on the seatmast. When I wanted to raise my saddle a few mm, I did get it to stick, but then I found a saddle that had slightly taller rails just for peace of mind. The one-bolt design... not the greatest, but I didn't have any troubles with it.
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Old 04-10-14, 10:35 AM   #289
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I have 2011 Track Elite with the integrated seatmast. It is a problem, and adjustments in length are difficult to make. However, it can be done; I have used it with a spacer to raise the seat slightly. Even when the seat is on the seatmast, however, it still squeeks somewhat, indicating that it is moving. I have gotten used to it, and now I suspect it just bothers whoever is riding next to me. The new design with the standard seatpost is a vast improvement. Like all the others, I would look for the earlier Track Pro and pass on the newer version.
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Went to check out the Fuji Track Pro today. Turns out is does not have an integrated seat post.

Wasn't sure what the most important bits to get pictures of were, so I took some random shots.

Guy wants 750, with the spare fork. If I can get him to 600 I might be able to afford it.



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Went to check out the Fuji Track Pro today. Turns out is does not have an integrated seat post.

Wasn't sure what the most important bits to get pictures of were, so I took some random shots.

Guy wants 750, with the spare fork. If I can get him to 600 I might be able to afford it.

Thoughts??
That's a great find. That bike was MSRP $1300 new. It looks clean in very good condition.

$650 is fair...anything under that is bonus. Don't work him over too hard

If it is your right size, I say go for it.

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By the way, that's a 2004. More info here

It looks like Sugino 75 cranks were swapped out for lower-end cranks.

If it's bone stock, you'll want to make a few small upgrades:

- Replace the aluminum chainring bolts with steel ($5).
- Replace the chain with a new stronger one ($20)
- If the tires are dry, put some new ones one. Ask for recommendations here. I a few favorites.
- The pedals are OK, but if you are going to do strong standing starts, I'd go with some different ones.
- Maybe put some different bars of your choice on there. Those are wide road bars (stock on that bike).
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Here it is with different components:




I like that frame.
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Old 04-10-14, 06:18 PM   #294
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I dont know..

$750 for a 10-year old crappy aluminum frame- With a Road crank (130bcd) and generic Formula wheels.. i would pass on that..
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I dont know..

$750 for a 10-year old crappy aluminum frame- With a Road crank (130bcd) and generic Formula wheels.. i would pass on that..
That frame isn't crappy. It's hard to see the bcd. I'm assuming that it's 144.

So what should he get for $650 (the asking price in the ad)?

Assuming that it's been gently used, that bike would retail for over $1000 today...with 130bcd cranks.

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That frame isn't crappy. It's hard to see the bcd. I'm assuming that it's 144.

So what should he get for $650 (the asking price in the ad)?
Frame is average at best- and 10yrs old..

the cranks are Sugino Rd - a 130bcd road double (or even tripple)

Dan's post says "guy wants $750"

by the time he swaps out everything on your list, plus the cranks and BB- he bought a 10yr old frame and some average wheels....

Im pretty sure he could get a brand new Felt TK3 for under $1000.. id go that route
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That's fair.
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Old 04-10-14, 07:05 PM   #298
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The used track bike market is different, as its very small. I've seen bikes for sale at our track that I thought were a great price, and they sit there for months or even years as there simply are no buyers. I think a lot of people will just keep their bikes they don't ride anymore as its just too hard to sell.

FWIW my buddy bought a brand new Felt TK3 for right around $950 last month.

750 is a little steep, no idea what the 2nd fork is worth. Right around 600 is fair and probably about as cheap as a non-steel bike gets.
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From the ad:

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Price is $650 for everything.
...including pedals and extra fork with road offset.

Like new Fuji Pro Track Bike 54 cm

$650 is fair. $600 is, too.
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At Velo Sports Center last night at the 4PM racer session tuning up for LAVRA on Sunday. I did not see VanceMac.

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