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    John Beasley's Open Letter to the UCI regarding Track Cycling

    Has anyone else seen this, got any thoughts etc?
    He seems to be talking a vaste amount of sense, will the UCI listen or respond?

    Track Cycling - Open Letter to Brian Cookson and the UCI

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    I'm (obviously) not in any inner-circle of international-level coaches, I've heard similar complaints about the UCI's attitude towards track racing.

    Unfortunately, the UCI is a big mystery to me and most others and I'm sure they'd like to keep it that way.

    I'd really like to see if cyclists world-wide could break away from the UCI and go towards a more responsive organization. In my short time in the sport it seems like the UCI has a lot of power and will only change if they have to, and right now they don't have to.

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    Further, it sucks when people really care about a sport and devote real time, energy, and money to it and be at the whim of an organization that doesn't seem to care. (I'm looking at you, too, USA Cycling).
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    I feel it a lot from our local cycling system. Im not sure how other sports work, but I really hate that there only seems to be a single authority when it comes to our events. I don't hide how much I am unimpressed and disappointed time and time again but other than just another complaint it doesn't really matter. Whenever there is a monopoly on something why would they listen to their customers. They can't go anywhere even if they wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtrob View Post
    I feel it a lot from our local cycling system. Im not sure how other sports work, but I really hate that there only seems to be a single authority when it comes to our events. I don't hide how much I am unimpressed and disappointed time and time again but other than just another complaint it doesn't really matter. Whenever there is a monopoly on something why would they listen to their customers. They can't go anywhere even if they wanted to.
    Oregon has OBRA which is thriving. I had an OBRA membership the past 2 seasons while not having USA Cycling or UCI memberships.

    ATRA is really great, too. Especially for race promotion.

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    Ive raced in about 9 states this year and a few provinces. Most of them are awesome, I had nothing but good experiences with places like New York and Arizona for example.

    Ontario, where I live, is the worst. Both road and track (especially track)

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    I've seen some local/regional organizations in the US just not "get" track. They think of it as some cheeky fun thing and road, crit, MTB, and CX are "serious" racing.

    I'm glad to see that GBR turned that around on a national level. I'm not familiar with the histories of the FR, GER, AUS and Malay programs.

    As noted in the book "Heroes Villains and Velodromes", GBR staff noted that Track offered 5 medal opportunities per gender whereas Road, BMX, and MTB only offered a total of 4 medals COMBINED. That 5 medal opportunities was one of the most cost effective programs of all sports. I think this was only topped by Swimming.

    Think about how much money and logistics it takes to train and field basketball or volleyball teams that have a chance at only 1 medal.

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    National federation has zero interrest in track cycling, this year budget given to track cycling is a fat zero. No indoor velodrome in the whole country, I understand that they are expensive but still. And we don't even have a start gate for national champs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldogsprinter View Post
    National federation has zero interrest in track cycling, this year budget given to track cycling is a fat zero. No indoor velodrome in the whole country, I understand that they are expensive but still. And we don't even have a start gate for national champs.
    Bulldog, you don't have a location on your profile. About which country are you speaking?

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    Finland. Not one of the big countries in cycling and even smaller in track cycling. Some times a feel like cursing my father for moving here from UK

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    It can change fast. Im hoping Canada is on the cusp of a big shift in the sport. You can't have the sport without the infrastructure though of course.


    Thats a good point regarding medals. I have a friend going to masters worlds road race and all it takes is a flat or minor mishap and there goes the race. Its not cheap to get yourself and a bike on the other side of the world.

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    Interesting how the UCI should ignore track cycling when they have been musing as to how to gain income from cycling, especially road. The popularity of the sport breeds from its accessibility to the general public. Track cycling has the opportunity for a captive audience to be sufficiently charged. If they could somehow devote some energy to increasing its popularity for spectating, they could perhaps see some sort of income stream from it.

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    The sport couldn't dry up and disappear in the US, could it?

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    A bit of a late comment (I haven't been that active on the track lately), but it's nothing new and it applies as much to USAC as to UCI.

    An example at the USAC level is in board elections-- there are "promoter" reps that only promoters are eligible to run for and vote for. On the road, anybody who's put on a race (road or track--I put on only track races, but could only vote for road) counts. On the track you have to be a paid director of a velodrome to run or vote. USAC didn't realize that many tracks (including a number with great programs) are run by volunteer organizations, sometimes where there's a paid parks and rec person who runs the park the track is in, but sometimes not, and that at many tracks the races are put on by organizations separate from the one that runs the track. I know they didn't realize this because they said as much after they complained about the lack of candidates and votes and I emailed to explain it. I had put on 100+ days of track racing in the preceding several years when they added the position, but wasn't eligible to run or vote for the promoter rep. There's tons of interest in track at the grass roots level, and lots of well run programs, but USAC has never shown much interest in getting feedback from the people who actually are at the tracks around the country keeping things going.
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    There is an interesting and insightful article published in 2003 that includes comments from Ron Web here:
    www.cyclingnews.com - the world centre of cycling
    I do agree with the comment that we need to provide interesting races that can be readily understood by non-track-cycling audiences. At the Encino velodrome miss & out races were always a spectator favorite (as an official I had to compete with good natured opposition from the spectators on who to take out).

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    I think I'll add to my previous comment. I'm realizing that so many tracks are volunteer ran, or are a part of a parks department. I know one of our tracks, Chicago velo campus, is struggling to stay open. Not sure why, but most likely due to funding.

    So, because of that would we potentially have to fight to keep our beloved sport alive? So many big complexes in the us like major Taylor, marymoor, giordana, etc seem to have huge backing but smaller tracks may not. I'm just getting into the sport and I'd hate to only be able to ride/race for 2 years and then be up the creek without a track to train and race on.

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