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    Racers and Coaches: What would you want out of a track-specific iOS app?

    I may (may not) be working on an app for the iPhone and Apple Watch.

    What features, "wouldn't-it-be-cool-ifs", or wishlist items can you suggest for me? The more detail the better.

    What have you seen in other apps that you like?

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    A few were mentioned in the other thread:

    - UCI countdown timer (especially if you were doing iPad, too-- you could put lights and a clock on it)
    - pursuit schedule calculator that lets you put in time, start differential, and track length

    plus some more:
    - 3 line stopwatch with "tape" (ideally it would have two side by side or up/down so you could time the opposing rider, too, with a single start and separate split/stop buttons)
    - gear calculator (there are a few good ones out there already though)
    - interval timer that lets you program an interval set (time in zone x, time in zone y,...time in zone whatever, and reps per set, then gives you beeps in different tones to tell you when to change)
    - list of tracks and their lengths, plus links to them (you'd probably want to pull this from a server regularly)
    - bike setup information (e.g. spindle to saddle top, seatpost to bars, etc. for those times I end up visiting a track and renting a bike)
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    Thanks, man!

    I have the gear calculator built. It's sort of unique. I'll show it off soon.

    I'm definitely working on:
    - UCI Countdown timer and a stopwatch. That's a great idea to time the opposing rider!
    - Pursuit schedule calculator. I've made some progress so far and it also has some unique outputs.

    These are definitely in line with were I'd like to go with the app. More of a "Coach's Utility" than anything else. I need to learn how to go deep with the pursuit timing aspect. I've never been a pursuiter so I've never invested brain cells in that area

    I hadn't considered the track and bike setup reference info. That's a great idea, too. I've written down my bike specs on a million scraps of paper over the years! Maybe this will go into a companion reference app. Not sure.

    Keep the ideas coming.

    Also, if you see some similar apps with features you'd like for me to see, let me know.

    I hope to have this in the App store by the end of next month. I'm using Apple Swift, so you guys will have to upgrade to iOS 8 to use it.

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    Andy Coggan has some articles about the pursuit on his blog. Especially part 3 is about pacing (which is supposed not to be completely even). Your app could compare the actual split time with the planned split time and also indicate whether the rider has to go faster to reach a certain time. Ipad seems to be more useful for something like that. Jens got the pacing signaled on a tablet during the hour attempt.
    (Nevertheless I'm not going to buy an Apple ios toy)

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    Thanks, Tman!

    I have a buddy who is a top-notch Android developer and also a trackie. Maybe I can get him on the case, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    Thanks, Tman!

    I have a buddy who is a top-notch Android developer and also a trackie. Maybe I can get him on the case, too
    I support this. I was trying and failing to come up with a non snarky way of saying the feature I would want is working on android.
    Do you think we're gonna make it? / I don't know unless we try \ you could sit here scared to move / or we could take them by surprise

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    I hadn't considered the track and bike setup reference info. That's a great idea, too. I've written down my bike specs on a million scraps of paper over the years! Maybe this will go into a companion reference app. Not sure.
    The "Mybikeinfo" app is where I got the idea for measurements. It's basically an app for cataloging your bikes down to the smallest detail.

    For the pursuit timer, if there's enough screen you might have it automatically round and display in large (or bold, or a different color) the number to call out. I.e. if someone is riding a 17.39 it would show "7.4" to keep you from calling out 7.3 by accident.

    If you want to be really super awesome, figure out how to take hardware inputs and set it up to take a tape-switch input...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingduck View Post
    If you want to be really super awesome, figure out how to take hardware inputs and set it up to take a tape-switch input...
    I was thinking about this as well. Set up hardware on the tape switch which transmits a ANT+ and/or bluetooth pulse when contacted. The phone app on the bike measures time between pulses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gl98115 View Post
    I was thinking about this as well. Set up hardware on the tape switch which transmits a ANT+ and/or bluetooth pulse when contacted. The phone app on the bike measures time between pulses.
    I was thinking to leave the phone or ipad on the apron, but bluetooth is even better!

    Probably not too hard to do as an arduino project.
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    Voice control so I can start and stop the clock without taking my hands from the bars. Alternately, a wireless thumb mounted button I can easily press in the middle of an effort. Somehow making something I can control while in full sprint that has better than the 1sec resolution given by Strava.
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