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    Need New Shoes - recommendations?

    Well, the time has come to put my old shoes to sleep. I could try once again to resuscitate them but like an old faithful dog, their quality of life is at an end and it's time to do the humane thing. Plus ripping the upper off the sole pretty much put an end to them.

    I searched the forum, and the last thread I found was from 2013. I have a flat foot, wear an orthotic, and have narrow heels, but wide forefoot. Kind of like a flipper, which would be great if I was a swimmer, but alas, short stocky trackies don't float well.

    I would like the shoe to be as aero as possible, so obviously a Bont zero might work, but since the web site says it is designed for climbing, I worry about how it will hold up under standing starts. The Vapor T is also nice, but I am not sure I want to go back to lacing. SIDI has a nice shoe, but with all the BOA gizmos, it doesn't seem very air slippy.

    I plan to only wear this shoe on the track. I do sprints, 500, scratch and miss and out, with the very occasional points race.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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    DMT Pista might fit the bill. You described my foot.

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    Consider the Fizik R1 or R3. You can find them locally.

    I took my R3 and had a cobbler cut off the lower 2 velcro straps and punch lace eyelets to make them "track" shoes that would feel good under double straps.

    I plan on doing the same to my R1s soon. I've had both pair since 2011. The R1 feel more wide in the toe box than the R3.

    I also have a pair of Giro Empires that lace up as well. But these are probably more narrow than either of the Fizik. But they are easy to find at local shops for you to try on. They come in lots of colors, too.

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    Novice question here: How different are the shoes for track vs the road?

    I have the Specialized Comp Road Shoes, will they be okay for track as well?
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    Thanks for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myth001 View Post
    Novice question here: How different are the shoes for track vs the road?

    I have the Specialized Comp Road Shoes, will they be okay for track as well?
    for 999 in 1000 people there is no difference.

    For that 1, which will seem like more on a forum like this, they have other priorities like straps that will have them riding something else.

    So yes, your road shoes/pedals are just fine. Some people might have a 2nd pair just because they will stay clean.

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    Cool, thanks gtrob, I'm quite happy with my shoes, and am glad to know I can use them both on road and track.
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    We had a corporate event last night to test the rental bikes out, they are quite nice Argons. Remember to bring your pedals

    And lots of water....its warm in there!

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    The rentals don't have pedals at all? Or is it just one of those personal preference things?

    They haven't specified any such thing in the emails. I'm due for a "test the track' rides in a week from now, but nobody has told me to arrange my own pedals. Their website is not updated in this respect also:
    http://www.mattamynationalcyclingcen...-Equipment.asp

    I love the look of the Argons, but would also love to try out some other bikes if possible before jumping the *g*u*n to buy one.
    Last edited by myth001; 01-08-15 at 12:24 PM. Reason: G U N is banned? come on guys!
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    Myth,
    You want to bring your own pedals in any case. The pedals on the rental bikes may not accommodate the cleats on your shoes. If they are just cage and straps, which is typical of rental bikes, then your cleated shoes won't work at all.


    Quote Originally Posted by myth001 View Post
    The rentals don't have pedals at all? Or is it just one of those personal preference things?

    They haven't specified any such thing in the emails. I'm due for a "test the track' rides in a week from now, but nobody has told me to arrange my own pedals. Their website is not updated in this respect also:
    Bikes and Equipment - Milton Velodrome

    I love the look of the Argons, but would also love to try out some other bikes if possible before jumping the *g*u*n to buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtrob View Post
    We had a corporate event last night to test the rental bikes out, they are quite nice Argons. Remember to bring your pedals

    And lots of water....its warm in there!
    The aluminum or carbon Argons?
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    Just the aluminum, there's about 100 of them. Its a decent build for a rental, nice saddles too.


    Myth we have about a bunch of shimano pedals but otherwise its flats with straps. If you have Looks or something you need to bring your own. Probably a good habit anyway if you are going to ride rentals for a while.

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    gtrob - thanks for the info.

    I have a shoe question: has anyone tried the latest "wire" shoes on the track? I like the way the fit, but those wires look awfully small to withstand the track duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunderhi View Post
    gtrob - thanks for the info.

    I have a shoe question: has anyone tried the latest "wire" shoes on the track? I like the way the fit, but those wires look awfully small to withstand the track duty.
    They all seem to break over time from what I've seen from people at the track.

    The wire thing is a way to keep the shoes lightweight. Don't waste your money.

    It's a marketing gimmick to differentiate shoes...like 6 blades on a razor.

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    Thanks rensho3 and gtrob, good points there. I'll take my pedals with me. I'm just not in the habit of removing/installing the pedals all the time. I guess I'll probably buy a spare to use.

    And wow, 100 bikes, I guess the number does go up when they have to try to cover all the possible sizes. And nice saddles! That's good. Otherwise I was also thinking whether we should bring our own saddles as well. Various riders have various preferences, some like flat, semi-flat or round, or narrow vs wide. They probably have to keep a lot of saddles to cover various tastes as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    They all seem to break over time from what I've seen from people at the track.

    The wire thing is a way to keep the shoes lightweight. Don't waste your money.

    It's a marketing gimmick to differentiate shoes...like 6 blades on a razor.
    I've had my Speesh with Boas for almost 3 years now - only used on road. Now the left boa sometimes comes loose when pushing uphill or sprinting. I'll see how they fare on the track.

    Which ones do you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myth001 View Post
    I've had my Speesh with Boas for almost 3 years now - only used on road. Now the left boa sometimes comes loose when pushing uphill or sprinting. I'll see how they fare on the track.

    Which ones do you use?
    I use:

    - Giro Empire (lace up)
    - Fizik R3 (removed lower 2 velcro straps and added laces = 1 ratchet and laces)
    - Fizik R1 (1 ratchet and 2 velcro straps)

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    Nice, I like the R3s, they look awesome.

    Do you use all these only for tracks? Or on the road as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myth001 View Post
    Nice, I like the R3s, they look awesome.

    Do you use all these only for tracks? Or on the road as well?
    I use all 3 on the track and the R1 on the road.

    R1 are nice (1 ratchet, 2 velcro) because they are easy to get in and out of and to adjust. I don't like using laces on the road.

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    I have the Fizik R3, nicely made and a stiff sole. However the arch is pretty high (significantly higher than ive had with any other shoes) so it might not be suitable if you have a flat foot. Although perhaps a high arch is a good thing for this i dont know!

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    So I have decided the DMT shoes are what I need to get. I can't find them in my shop, and they aren't able to order them. I can get them on-line. I currently wear A Bontrager RXL in a size 40. It allows me to insert my orthotic. Does the DMT run big or small? If I buy a 40, will it be a 40, or more like a 39? Thanks in advance for any help provided.

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