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    New bike question

    Hi All

    First, I apologize for asking what must be a tired question to experienced folks.

    Second, thanks to all who have contributed here in these forums...I have spent many an hour reading and have learned a ton about the sport, including tactics and equipment.

    I'm wondering what bike to buy. I've narrowed the decision to:
    Dolan TC1 ($1500, starter level good bike)
    2014 Fuji Track Elite ($3200, Scatto handlebars, mediocre crankset, people hate the aero seatpost)
    2015 Fuji Track Elite ($3200, cheap handlebars, Omnium crankset, people hate the aero seatpost)
    Dolan DF4 (similar price to the Fuji, configurable, people hate the aero seatpost)

    So I've read the threads and learned what I can...but I'm very interested in hearing opinions, preferences, and trade-off judgements. And to be honest, $1500 incremental cost from entry level to top level isn't that much to me for a bike that I'll use a lot and have for years.

    About me: new trackie; active bike racer (USAC CX 3, MTB 2, Road 4 but 3 soon); 50 years old, 200 pounds; on the track, will likely enjoy the sprint events more than the endurance events.

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts!

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    I know several people who have the 2014 Fuji Track Elite, and they seem very happy with it. I have a 2012 (maybe 2011, I'm old and forgetful) FTE and, but for the old style seat post that allows my seat to teeter-totter oh so slightly when I ride, I love it. The Dolan is DF4 is also a wonderful bike; If you have the money, I would avoid the starter bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapwithtom View Post
    Hi All

    First, I apologize for asking what must be a tired question to experienced folks.

    Second, thanks to all who have contributed here in these forums...I have spent many an hour reading and have learned a ton about the sport, including tactics and equipment.

    I'm wondering what bike to buy. I've narrowed the decision to:
    Dolan TC1 ($1500, starter level good bike)
    2014 Fuji Track Elite ($3200, Scatto handlebars, mediocre crankset, people hate the aero seatpost)
    2015 Fuji Track Elite ($3200, cheap handlebars, Omnium crankset, people hate the aero seatpost)
    Dolan DF4 (similar price to the Fuji, configurable, people hate the aero seatpost)

    So I've read the threads and learned what I can...but I'm very interested in hearing opinions, preferences, and trade-off judgements. And to be honest, $1500 incremental cost from entry level to top level isn't that much to me for a bike that I'll use a lot and have for years.

    About me: new trackie; active bike racer (USAC CX 3, MTB 2, Road 4 but 3 soon); 50 years old, 200 pounds; on the track, will likely enjoy the sprint events more than the endurance events.

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
    A frame won't make you much faster. Taking the extra $1500 and applying it to stuff like chainrings, cogs, front wheel, race fees, clinics, etc... will make you faster.

    Look into the Hoy Fiorenzuola as well. It's like $1,300 shipped. It's a solid mid-level bike.

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    that Dolan is everything you'd need.
    the hipster myth.

    i practice vagabondery.

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    rapwithtom,

    I have more money than sense when it comes to buying bikes. I've owned a lot of the high-end frames and not one of them made me faster...but I sure looked fast in photos

    A bike frame to a track cyclists is what a pair of shoes is to a basketball player. They won't make him quicker, faster, or jump higher but they *can* get in the way of him/her being quick, fast, or jumping if they aren't up to the task. (Ever play basketball in running shoes? Not a good idea.). A good basketball player will be just as good in $80 shoes as they would be in $280 shoes.

    So, think of the frame (and components, for that matter) as a foundation. The frame should eliminate any problems that may occur (flexiness, slipping seat posts, bad fit, etc...) Once those are taken care of, it's good enough. Any frame that is good enough, will be good enough.

    Does that help?

    NOW...if you like nice bikes (or shoes), there is *absolutely* nothing wrong with having nice bikes and shoes! It's fun to have cool stuff. And if it motivates you to get off your butt and go ride, then it's a great thing!
    Last edited by carleton; 03-10-15 at 05:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carleton View Post
    rapwithtom,

    I have more money than sense when it comes to buying bikes. I've owned a lot of the high-end frames and not one of them made me faster...but I sure looked fast in photos

    A bike frame to a track cyclists is what a pair of shoes is to a basketball player. They won't make him quicker, faster, or jump higher but they *can* get in the way of him/her being quick, fast, or jumping if they aren't up to the task. (Ever play basketball in running shoes? Not a good idea.). A good basketball player will be just as good in $80 shoes as they would be in $280 shoes.

    So, think of the frame (and components, for that matter) as a foundation. The frame should eliminate any problems that may occur (flexiness, slipping seat posts, bad fit, etc...) Once those are taken care of, it's good enough. Any frame that is good enough, will be good enough.

    Does that help?

    NOW...if you like nice bikes (or shoes), there is *absolutely* nothing wrong with having nice bikes and shoes! It's fun to have cool stuff. And if it motivates you to get off your butt and go ride, then it's a great thing!
    Lol nice analogy Carleton!

    Thanks for the responses all.

    Today I purchased the Fuji. The incremental cost over a "starter bike" wasn't much...at least not enough to dissuade me. I get that this bike won't make me win races...and now I have one less thing to blame. It seems that over time the *** gets pointed more and more squarely at ice cream...

    I chose the Fuji over the Dolan DF4 strictly on geometry; the DF4 is more aggressive with a lower stack height, and at my age, aggressive positioning is getting more and more challenging. I think the Fuji will still be plenty aggressive for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapwithtom View Post
    Lol nice analogy Carleton!

    Thanks for the responses all.

    Today I purchased the Fuji. The incremental cost over a "starter bike" wasn't much...at least not enough to dissuade me. I get that this bike won't make me win races...and now I have one less thing to blame. It seems that over time the *** gets pointed more and more squarely at ice cream...

    I chose the Fuji over the Dolan DF4 strictly on geometry; the DF4 is more aggressive with a lower stack height, and at my age, aggressive positioning is getting more and more challenging. I think the Fuji will still be plenty aggressive for me.
    Enjoy the new bike give us feedback once you've settled into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocirapture View Post
    Enjoy the new bike give us feedback once you've settled into it.
    And post photos!
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