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Old 05-24-05, 05:14 PM   #1
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The less sleep I get the easier I wake

I am a medium to heavy sleeper. I have slept through numerous earthquakes and I need to change my alarm clock about once every month in order for it to continue to be effective. I get used to the alarm after a while. I will continue sleeping if it gets bright in my room or uncomfortably cold or warm. I've done lots of things... using multiple alarms placed at different locations through the room, trying different wake up times (+/- 30 minutes). The best solution is to have another person whack me in the morning or throw water on me, although that doesn't always work either, because I am so tired sometimes that I fall asleep again if I don't instantly spring out of bed.

One thing I noticed... is that if I stay up very late (between 1 and 2 am) then I have little trouble getting up at 7am the next morning. I am exhausted for the rest of the day... but I am able to get up in the morning. Does anyone else have any experiences similar to this? Any explanation?
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Old 05-24-05, 09:17 PM   #2
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No Explanation here but looking for one as well. I lurk around the Net until 1 or 2 (last night it was 2:40 ) I hit the hay and Im paying for it today. I was exausted until the wife and kids went to bed and now Im entering 2nd wind.

Im sure Ill stay up till at least 1 tonight. Oh and by the way, I have slept through a tornado, 2 hurricanes, (one was Hugo) and a guy running a Z28 through the Corner of my house. And yes, I have woke up at 1 in the afternoon with a pounding headache because my alarm (which was set to wake me at 7 am) had been ringing for 6 hours.

I dunno man, Ill get right up in the mornings but Im beat as heck all day, then Ill stay up late into the next night.

I guess we dont require much sleep?

Oh yes, PS, I cannot goto bed until I cant hold my head up anylonger, usually thats around 1 or 2 am

Cant go in there and lay and loo up at the ceiling fan for 2 hours, when I hit the hay, I want to go right out.

Let me know if you find anything out lol
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I don't like any other exercise or sports, really.
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It's because you always wake up at the same time. Doesn't really matter if you sleep later.
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Old 05-24-05, 11:08 PM   #4
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Im still here lol ....... 1:12 am

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Old 05-25-05, 12:27 AM   #5
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this is startin to suck....zzzzzzz......2:30

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Old 05-25-05, 12:36 AM   #6
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You guys are like my dad. Hes an insomniac.

I remember he didn't sleep for 2 days in a row(48+ consecutive hours awake) and then he slept for about 18 hours. When he's asleep nothing will wake him up. Good for him, hes a sound sleeper. Bad for him if theres some kind of emergency(fire, earthquake, break in, etc.)

One thing I noticed that wakes him up is smell. If he smells something he likes(food) or something gross(skunks) he will wake up. Maybe that could be the next thing for insomniacs? A smell alarm clock...

edit: he has tried sleeping pills too. They worked, but he didn't like the idea of taking a pill everyday in order to go to sleep.

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Old 05-25-05, 12:58 AM   #7
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Interesting about the smells. That may help me some. This has always frustrated me. Its very difficult to control my sleeping habits.
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you also sleep in cycles around 90 min. the deepest sleep are at the middle of the cycle(45 min) and it is easiest to wake during the beginning our end of a cycle. I know it may be hard to do but try to set your wake time at roughly 90 minute intervals from when you fall asleep. say 7.5 or 9 hours

impossible for some, like me, who spend hours attempting to get so sleep but can work well for those who fall asleep reguraly.

Also you may want to try to deterine your ideal hours of sleep. Ironically oversleep and undersleep have the same side effects(grumpy, groggy, tired, etc.) so it is important to sleep just the right number of hours. There is a way to do this, I forget how it works, but it involves adjusting what time you fall asleep over a period of a few day so its hard to do for the working stiff.
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I tend to do the same. I went through a period where I decided to aim for the 8 hours of sleep per night and wake up when my body decided to wake up. That was a weird feeling. I was like "so this is how the rested feel!". But generally, I get 4- 5 hours per night, and when I do that, I can get up in time. Otherwise, I have to settle for waking up at 10 am and stuff like that.

I've gone days without sleep too. It's not so hard once you hit the third day, but it can give me a headache too.

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I can easily sleep for 8 hours per night, but I feel much better the next day if I've had less than 6. It kinda sucks, because my wife only really functions when she's had 7-8 hours sleep, so we often don't go to bed at the same time (we both need to get up at the same time in the morning). I don't have the deep sleep problem, though... I always wake up to the alarm... or the sound of our cat running around the house (with the sound she makes, I'm sure she's got elephant blood in her somewhere!)

My dad and my sister and 3-4 hour sleepers max.
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I tend to do the same. I went through a period where I decided to aim for the 8 hours of sleep per night and wake up when my body decided to wake up. That was a weird feeling. I was like "so this is how the rested feel!". But generally, I get 4- 5 hours per night, and when I do that, I can get up in time. Otherwise, I have to settle for waking up at 10 am and stuff like that.

I've gone days without sleep too. It's not so hard once you hit the third day, but it can give me a headache too.

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After 3 days without sleep, aren't you considered clinically insane?

I did the no sleep thing for 3 days with a friend. By the third day, no joke, we were stuck impersonating bill cosby trying to impersonate barbara walters with a russian accent. Everytime we'd try to talk normally we'd revert back to that voice. Aside from the weird feeling your stomach gets when you don't sleep, it was a fun time.
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The most I have gone without sleep is 52 hours.

We were out fishing and needed all hands on deck since we had all lines bit(total of 7 tuna, all over 80lb).

By the time I got into the galley and into a bunk I was so tired I was literally falling asleep on my feet, and we still had one more fish to bring in.
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After 3 days without sleep, aren't you considered clinically insane?

I did the no sleep thing for 3 days with a friend. By the third day, no joke, we were stuck impersonating bill cosby trying to impersonate barbara walters with a russian accent. Everytime we'd try to talk normally we'd revert back to that voice. Aside from the weird feeling your stomach gets when you don't sleep, it was a fun time.
Not insane, but just feeling a bit drained. Usually, if I'm doing a big move or heading out of the country, I have to pull a multi-nighter. The last time I went out of the country, I did not sleep from Thursday night until my flight left Wednesday morning. Then I couldn't sleep at all on the plane, so I just read a book. Then when I got there, 12 hours later, it was morning, and I didn't want to be sleeping during the daytime and throw off my jet lag. That's when I started seeing spots in front of my eyes. When I finally did get sleep, I couldn't get more than about 7 hours. I laid there for a long time trying to sleep in, but it just didn't happen. It's really difficult for me to sleep in- it just makes me feel drained and tired and sleepy all day long.

I think most people get by on 4- 6 hours of sleep per night. I knew this kid that was claiming sleep was irrelevant, and that he was going to figure out how to wean oneself off sleep entirely. I don't think it can be done at all, but if it did happen, he'd figure out a way.

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I have the opposite problem. I wake up by 5 am every day even when I don't have to be up. In fact I almost never have to get up that early. Doesn't matter what time I go to bed either - 9, 10, 11, 12, 1. Up at 5, sometimes earlier. Never set an alarm. Leaves me tired though in the middle of the day.

Of course the only exceptions to this are when I really really have to be up super early to cram in some studying - on those days I tend to wake up late! Wish that could be everyday, sleep is so nice.
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Not insane, but just feeling a bit drained. Usually, if I'm doing a big move or heading out of the country, I have to pull a multi-nighter. The last time I went out of the country, I did not sleep from Thursday night until my flight left Wednesday morning. Then I couldn't sleep at all on the plane, so I just read a book. Then when I got there, 12 hours later, it was morning, and I didn't want to be sleeping during the daytime and throw off my jet lag. That's when I started seeing spots in front of my eyes. When I finally did get sleep, I couldn't get more than about 7 hours.
Um... you are either superhuman, or non-human altogether.

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man personally i cant get more then 4 to 5 hours of sleep and i play classical music which has made me fall to sleep earlier but still not what i need for a teen BUT im so full of energy that i have gotten kicked out for rambling on with no end in sight which i cant help due to my high energy
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