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    Wife is trippin'...sorta

    So, with 10 and 12 weeks respectively until my next two events (a sprint tri Aug. 13 and the Hotter n' Hell on Aug. 27) I've decided I need to give myself a bit o' downtime. Nothing drastic, but it seems to have my wife a bit concerned.

    Facts: I have not had a 'down' day in roughly 10 weeks. I've lost 23 lbs., quit smoking and became a vegetarian (if you can 'become' one).

    Further facts: My run is slowly going to ****. My cycling is improving, but not at the same rate I've been going for the last 10 weeks.

    Last fact: I do 100 hindu push ups and 100 hindu squats every morning; 10 sets of 15 jack knife crunches and meditate for 30 minutes a day, every day.

    My theory: By switching to a schedule like this...

    Sunday: 45 mile ride/1 mile swim/no run.
    Monday: 15 mile ride/.5 mile swim/10 mile run.
    Tuesday: Play video games, relax.
    Wednesday: 45 mile ride/2 mile open water swim/7 mile run.
    Thursday: Play video games, relax.
    Friday: 15 mile ride/.5 mile swim/12 mile run.
    Saturday: 45 mile ride/ 1 mile swim/ no run.


    ...I would give myself some down time. My intent is to continue adding weekly
    2 miles cycling/.5 mile swimming/1/3/2 running.

    Where she's freaking a bit is that I intend to start playing my video game again. What I figure is that I could not play the game individually without giving too much ground to it; nor can I train individually without giving too much ground to that, and overtraining.

    So, I've sat down and realized that the best way to both train hard, and guarantee I actually give myself some down time is to do both.

    I know it seems odd, but I'm OCD enough to do stupid stuff like this example (this was my Wed.-Thurs. off):

    Wednesday: 65 mile ride/15 mile run/6 mile walk/3 mile swim.
    Thursday: 58 mile ride/13 mile run/7 mile walk/2 mile swim.

    What happens is, I can't sit - so I go back out and do something. Needless to say, today, my legs were **** and I could not even do my daily commute. I had to drive for the first time in a long time. I don't want to screw up my chances during my two events, so I think sitting in front of a computer on 'down' days is a good alternative to keep my mind of getting back outside.

    So, my question is - has anybody else had to take on a sedetary hobby to counteract their OCD athletic training?

    Am I stupid, or is what I'm adding smart - in that it gives me serious down time 2 days out of the week?

    Obviously, my diet will only change in that on the down days I would drop my caloric intake by about 500 calories but increase my water and veggie consumption (much lower calories than say beans, etc.) since I won't be burning anything other than for repairs and maintenance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santaria
    Sunday: 45 mile ride/1 mile swim/no run.
    Monday: 15 mile ride/.5 mile swim/10 mile run.
    Tuesday: Play video games, relax.
    Wednesday: 45 mile ride/2 mile open water swim/7 mile run.
    Thursday: Play video games, relax.
    Friday: 15 mile ride/.5 mile swim/12 mile run.
    Saturday: 45 mile ride/ 1 mile swim/ no run.

    Where she's freaking a bit is that I intend to start playing my video game again.

    What happens is, I can't sit - so I go back out and do something. I don't want to screw up my chances during my two events, so I think sitting in front of a computer on 'down' days is a good alternative to keep my mind of getting back outside.

    So, my question is - has anybody else had to take on a sedetary hobby to counteract their OCD athletic training?

    I don't understand why taking a couple days off each week is so difficult. I don't know about other people, but I've got so many other sedentary things to do, that I have to work to find time to cycle!! I'd love to have two days a week where I'm at loose ends, and have to resort to playing a video game to fill my time!!

    Since you are upsetting your wife, allow me to make some suggestions. Instead of playing the video game all the time:

    1. Check with your wife about things that need doing around the house. Chances are she would be THRILLED if you picked up a dust rag and gave the place a going over, or dug out the vacuum cleaner, or made supper, or did the dishes, or cleaned the bathroom, or paid the bills, cleaned out the garage, or painted the living room, or ....

    2. Check with your wife about things SHE would like to do. Perhaps she would like to go for a walk in the park with you. Maybe she would like you to take her out to dinner and a movie. What about cuddling in front of the TV or fireplace? Or maybe she would love it if you came with her to her yoga class.

    3. How about more intellectual/self-improvement pursuits? When was the last time you read a book? Took a night class to upgrade your computer skills, or to learn a new language? Took a class in some sort of hobby like ... woodworking, or cooking?

    4. How about museums, art galleries, concerts, tourist attractions, etc. etc. etc. in your local area. Most people never do any of the tourist things in their city and they have no idea what's out there. Maybe take your wife and go explore!

    5. What about recovery rides? Cycle at a pace where a child could keep up with you ... ride on the MUPs in your area where you can't get any speed up ... sightsee, take photos ... and maybe if your wife is a little bit into cycling, perhaps she would like to ride with you on your recovery rides.



    Nothing wrong with playing a video game once in a while, but there's a whole world out there to see and explore ... life is too short to spend it sitting in front of the computer.

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    Maybe I said too much, and missed the key point:

    My wife and I work two different schedules. She works from 4:30 a.m.-2 p.m.; I work from 2:30 p.m.-11:30 p.m. Our son is 3, and she is due Oct. 19 with our second, and only other child.

    I get up and take my son to work, then come home. Then I clean, do laundry, etc. There are zero choirs for her to do, as I feel that's sorta my responsibility with her being pregnant and still working.

    After the house is clean, its not very difficult for me to keep it squared away all week being I'm the only one home.

    Her complaint is that she's afraid if I start playing my video games again, I'll get distracted and neglect cycling/triathalon. Its not that she is pushing me, its that she knows how much I love my sports and how destroyed I would be to backpedal or fall down again and gain a huge amount of weight, etc.

    All the things you mention, are things we do on our mutual days off - which is pretty neat that you mentioned most of them.

    As far as degree, I'm heading back in January to work on my EMT/P so that I can get hired, hopefully, by the Department of Forestry. I have my BA in History already, and intend to go back and get a MA, just not sure in what yet.
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    The video game seems to have been a problem in the past. Why else is your wife so concerned about it? Maybe she knows that it has led you to be unmotivated in the past? I dunno. Based on your posts, i can see your OCD. RELAX man. Take a day off every now and then. Generally when your legs feel like they are dead, that would be a good time. Then ride the next day.

    I can relate, as i have similar characteristics. I HATE not getting to ride for a day. As a matter of fact, i don't recall my last day off. I think it was the day after my first century a few weeks ago. I am so obsessed with riding, that i try and make sure i don't completely kill my legs, so i have some fuel for the next day.

    There have been several days that i planned to take off, yet ended up riding anyway. Oh well, I don't know what to tell ya. Good Luck.

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    I'd agree 100% that in the past the video game (World of Warcraft, fyi).

    The one thing I've discussed with her is that by doing bothI'm not as likely to get overboard in either. Granted, it could turn out that both absorb huge chunks of my time, and at that point, she and I have agreed that she can tell me and I'd drop the game again instantly.

    My biggest issue is that I can't sit on the couch and do nothing, but, as I said - I'll go do a huge ride, run, swim - all within 7 hours, then walk another 6-7 miles just because I'm still wired. Even walking doesn't give my body the chance to recover it needs - so my hope is that when I know I must just sit down and relax, I can do so in front of a computer game I know can absorb me enough not to go throw on the jersey and go touring all over Central Texas.
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    If that was my house and you put your stupid bike in my flower garden to take a picture, I would come outside in my underwear and light you on fire.

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    If it is everquest stay away it will suck you in again!!!

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    Give your videogames to your neighbor & tell them NOT to give them back to you, only your wife.

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    Well I am not advising you on your day off situation but your activity schedule is way too much. I used to do some tri's and was on a club. The coach would never have us even the pro's doing all 3 things on the same day. Pick 1 maybe a couple times a week do 2 workouts like morning swim then before work run. Concentrate on 1 thing per day. If you do any long distance either run, bike, or swim make sure the other activity is short and easy effort. I can see why you are not seeing the results you are pushing yourself into over training. You need to back off. Unless you have been training for many years you would see results from tweaking that schedule down. Those 2 days off for sure do nothing you need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattC
    If it is everquest stay away it will suck you in again!!!
    That's the original game I gained all the weight on.

    Actually, the game is World of Warcraft, and I've pretty much worked it out with my wife to only play when I'm not training and she's at work/son is at school. That means at most, 2 hours a day, 3 days a week or so.

    As far as the overtraining, I'd agree, and am looking at reevaluating things, probably that looks something like this:

    Sunday-Monday: Commute as usual - 5-20 miles (depending on which way I go)
    bike swim: Sunday: 35 mile ride/1 mile swim/no run.
    Swim run: Monday: No ride/1 mile swim/10 mile run.
    off: Tuesday: aerobics only; ti chi.
    bike swim: Wednesday: 35 mile ride/1 mile swim/no run.
    Swim run: Thursday: no ride/1 mile swim/10 mile run.
    off: friday:aerobics only; ti chi.
    off: Saturday: aerobics only; ti chi.
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    Man, coordinating tri workouts must be tough. Because my general advice based on how I'm doing now is that you should take your days off when you need them, neither hard-coding them into your schedule nor doing without altogether. I took Monday off this week and needed another day by Thursday; Friday I had to take a rain check and by golly today I felt stronger and faster and more eager to ride than EVER!

    But I guess there's a finer line to tread when you have to incorporate running and swimming, and make time to get to the pool or whatever.

    As for your other hobby, I'd say try working it in on workout days. That way you're already busy so your time on the game is automatically limited, and you don't reward yourself for time off of working out by "getting" to veg at Warcraft!

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    Seems your wife only cares you dont get fat again...so do whatever you want...just dont get fat doing it!

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    I used to be a hardcore video gamer. I'm single so no issues with the loved ones, but I found myself spending very little time on other interests. I'd spend hours immersed in some game or another. Finally decided to sell off my super-duper video card and devote time to other things like reading, writing, and riding. I don't miss it one bit.

    It's kind of like empty calories you get from fast food or beer. Tastes nice, but once you ween yourself off of it, you find there's plenty of better substance to be found elsewhere.

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    86 the video games

    pickup a book

    otherwise you're regimen looks pretty badass :::bows down:::

    big ups yourself, you've got a lot goin' on

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    LOL...that rocks you have a dilemma over cycling and video games! HAHAHAHA

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    Hopefully it's a good game :]. Good job on quitting the smoking habit! My dad quit almost 12 years ago and it was the best thing for him.

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    Nothing wrong with videogames in my opinion. It ticks me off when people try to tell you that reading a book is good and playing a videogame is bad. What if he was playing chess, would people be telling him to quit? Hell no! But you add a video screen and then all of a sudden it's a waste of time. If you enjoy it, then do it. The key is keeping a balance.

    I play World of Warcraft too, it's an awesome game and it's easy to spend way too many hours doing it. I control it in a couple of ways. First, I tend to think of it as my replacement for TV. To me it's way more entertaining and thought-provoking. So I think about what I would consider a reasonable amount of time watching TV, and then don't play any more than that. Usually no more than 2 hours at a clip, and not every day.

    Secondly, my wife comes first. If we've got things planned, then I don't play. If something needs to be done around the house, I don't play. Once we have some real down time, I'll say "Babe, I'm gonna go play for a while, is that OK with you?" Most of the times she says yes, but occasionally she will want to snuggle or whatever, and then I don't play.

    I also limited my cycling. I would have no problem riding every day and getting completely absorbed in it. The thing is, I am a bit obsessive with my hobbies, and when I do that I get burned out quickly. I've got a bunch of camera equipment that I tinkered with 24/7 for a year, and now I don't touch it. I want my cycling to last for a lifetime. So I purposely hold myself back so that I am always eager for that next ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santaria
    Last fact: I do 100 hindu push ups and 100 hindu squats every morning; 10 sets of 15 jack knife crunches and meditate for 30 minutes a day, every day.

    What are these? How do you do them?

    I have heard of these before but can't seem to find much information on them.


    PS video games in moderation is a good strees reliever too. I play Asherons Call, but only 2-4 hours a week since I got back on the bike. Sometimes not even that much. I also try to play when my wife is at work.

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    Hindu pushups are sorta hard to explain. There are video illustrations, or at least .gifs available on the web, just do an altavista search. As far as hindu squats. You just squat down, taking your hands back - the trick to these is to rise up on your toes at the bottom and break parallel with your knees (considered bad by many) and then when you stand cycle your arms forward so they're in front of you. My trick to these is to add a calf-raise at the top and every other one I do an updown nowadays.

    Jack knife crunches are simply taking your arms over your head and your legs straight out and bringing them together above you.
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    I play guitar, so on my down time, I try to pick it up and write some music, learn some songs. I have to perform about once or twice a month, so it keeps me away from my video games as much as possible. I have a kick butt video card (bought it so I could play Half-Life 2) but rarely use it now.

    If you're into music, definitely take up learning an instrument. Been playing for ten years, and for me, the guitar is a lot more satisfying than some of these impossible games that take hours to solve.

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    I totally understand the OCD thing. I am totally obsessed with my training. I have about 3 obsessions going right now. It drives my wife nuts. I totally understand where you are coming from.

    Taking days off are very hard.
    I agree with others who have said that you are doing too much.
    Don't do all three sports on one day.
    Listen to your body about when to take days off or skip a workout. Its hard, but much better for you in the long run.

    I do two workouts on the same day 2 or 3 times a week. I'll bike in the morning and then run at night - or swim in the morning and run at night. Days that I do two workouts in the same day I typically do less intense workouts.

    Ditch the videogames. I know they are fun. But they suck you in too much. And it sounds like its causing you stress in your relationship with your wife.

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    Everquest is/was my bane!!

    Your wife is understandably worried about the game addiction. And, ya, thats what it is. I havent had a drink in 15+ years, not smoked in over 14, and no EQ for the last year. The nature of role playing games is that you get more the longer you play, just like life, you get out what you put in. Granted the rewards ramp up faster, but that still means easily putting in 4-5 hours a day playing (sometimes much much more).

    Your wife obviously cares about you and wants whats best. In this case, honestly, I can see where she's coming from.

    My sister got me an Xbox for christmas. I purchased Fable (their RPG). It was fun for a bit, easy to turn on and veg with for 30 min or an hour. Havent turned the thing on for a few months, but its there if I have time to kill, I just havent. I have read 10 or so books, and most importantly, got a LOT more sleep.
    Its all downhill from somewhere.

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    those are my two favorite hobbies too. the only thing i would worry about is that video games are too sedentary. I don't know if you are like me when it comes to video games, but if you are trying to be a healthy active person it is good to act like that at all time. A few hours in front of the TV should hurt but i have noticed that if i play for an extended period of time, it feels as if my muscles have already started to go into atrophy from the lack of use. Just a thought that you might want to look into other hobbies that are not necessarily active, but not as non active as gaming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santaria
    Hindu pushups are sorta hard to explain. There are video illustrations, or at least .gifs available on the web, just do an altavista search. As far as hindu squats. You just squat down, taking your hands back - the trick to these is to rise up on your toes at the bottom and break parallel with your knees (considered bad by many) and then when you stand cycle your arms forward so they're in front of you. My trick to these is to add a calf-raise at the top and every other one I do an updown nowadays.

    Jack knife crunches are simply taking your arms over your head and your legs straight out and bringing them together above you.
    Oly weightlifters go beyond 90 degrees. Nothing wrong with going ass to ankles. World of Warcraft is one of those games that encourages you to develop relationships online. The eventuality of this is that you neglect your real world relationships. I believe this is what your wife fears. That and the return of the lard. Ditch the WOW. It's bad for your soul. If you must, pick up a nice FPS and kill something.
    The fellowship of brothers of one mind is stronger than any fortified city. - Antisthenes

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikesWinSucka
    those are my two favorite hobbies too. the only thing i would worry about is that video games are too sedentary. I don't know if you are like me when it comes to video games, but if you are trying to be a healthy active person it is good to act like that at all time. A few hours in front of the TV should hurt but i have noticed that if i play for an extended period of time, it feels as if my muscles have already started to go into atrophy from the lack of use. Just a thought that you might want to look into other hobbies that are not necessarily active, but not as non active as gaming
    The problem with even semi-active activites is that I don't want to funnel money into something new. I'm already dilligently saving for my new triathalon bike, and training hard for the insane number of challenges I've set in front of me. Odds are, I won't be able to accomplish this list, but its 'on tap' as they say:

    June 18 - 5k race - did it, was fun
    July 9 - 10k (or a 30 mile bike/road race)
    Aug. 4 - 5k race
    Aug. 13 - Temple Triathalon
    Aug. 26-27 - 100 mile Hotter than Hell Road bike race
    Sept. 24 - 5k charity race
    Oct. 23 - Marathon
    Nov. 6 - 1/2 marathon (13 miler)
    Dec. 11 - Marathon.

    So realistically, I think I'm active enough to be a little sedate.

    Case in point:

    I have no bike, atm - I explained elsewhere - but will fix the broken parts July 13th.

    So my current schedule last week and this one so far has been fun:

    Monday: 7 miles
    Tuesday: 3 miles
    Wednesday: 8 miles
    Thursday: 3 miles
    Friday: 7 miles
    Saturday: 3 miles
    Sunday: rest
    Monday 8 miles
    Tuesday: 4 miles
    (tomorrow) Wednesday: 9 miles
    Thursday: 4 miles
    Friday 8 miles
    Saturday 4 miles
    Sunday rest.

    Then I'll go back to 7/3/8/3/7/3. I figure by the time I get to mid-August I should be up to 10/5/11/5/10/5.

    I swim 1 mile a day, every day. Normally its just relaxing, no rush swimming.

    When I get my bike back, I'll have to adapt and adjust that. I figure I'll drop off three days of running and add back in the bike.

    Anyhow, I've gone off on a tangent again explaining, but progressively, I need sedatary time or I go nuts and just start running again, or roam around - which really upsets my wife cause she can't find me when she gets home


    I play guitar, btw. I quit smoking May 1st - I habitually smoked when I played. The guitar will sit for another month or so just to be certain I've broken myself of any old habits.
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