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    HELP I always feel weak, soar and tiard

    I have been cycling and running for a few years and over the past two months have never felt worse? Am i under eating over training i just cant figure it out. I just went on vacation and took four days off. Today i went out for my morning run hoping to feel fresh but was met with a slow weak and painfull workout. After the first half mile my legs felt soar and my head pounded. Over the winter and springg months i had worked my running up to 8 miles a day and now a five mile trip is a challange. Please any help i could get would be greatly appriciated.

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    Well, I use the spell checker in Google toolbar.

    As for the fatigue, you might want to try a good veg out/pig out. A couple of pizza's, a few dozen wings, and 5 hours of extended TdF coverage is a good start.

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    My wife was feeling exacly like that this spring. It turns out that her B12 level was almost zero (it was unreadably low). You may want to have that checked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex-rower
    My wife was feeling exacly like that this spring. It turns out that her B12 level was almost zero (it was unreadably low). You may want to have that checked out.

    I take an acid reducing chemical (PPI: proton pump inhibitor) and I felt the same way a while back. Started taking under-the-toungue B-12 and Folic acid and I am much improved and I rarely get sore from cycling now unless I want too, or I don't drink enough water.
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    go to the doctor. forums are great for some questions, but if you don't feel right see a professional.
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    What does/did your training schedule look like before you started feeling this way. It sounds like a classic example of overtraining, but could be other reasons. That's why I asked about an example of your typical training.
    I was a rower, and I fell into overtraining very badly. When I had started, I was in very good shape and strong. I picked up the rowing fairly easily and began racing pretty quickly. Because of my competitive nature and immediately getting into the racing I had taken on a heavy training schedule that eventually took it's toll on my body. I still have issues with tendonitis in my forearms near my shoulders. Too much, too soon, or just too much period will eventually break your body down. Your training schedule must have designed rest days and easy/hard days mixed. The Chris Charmichael book discusses overtraining, and he states that many people are often amazed at how "easy" the training feels to some of them that take on his coaching programs. He also stated that rarely has any amateur rider every come to them with their own training program that was too easy. Usually they are doing way too much or going way too hard.
    The problem with most athletes, especially those that have a competitive nature about them, is that if performance doesn't increase or they seem to be dropping off they think that they need to work harder. Often that makes the problem of overtraining that much worse.
    I experienced severe overtraining and vowed to never go through that again. I've just taken up riding and worked up a program that will slowly give me the gains I'm looking for. I have to continuously monitor how my body is recovering and force myself to stick to the program even when I feel like I want to do more.
    I understand too how it mentally affects you when you are overtrained. It's just as bad as the physical side of things. It really gets you down and you can mentally feel like total crap about yourself, your performance and the general outlook on things daily.

    Hope this helps, and I highly recommend the Carmichael book. There is also another site that talks about overtraining well. I can't remember right now the exact address, but you can probably find it by with a google search on "Coach Carl bike training". Have not read his book, but he has free articles that will give some insight.

    Sorry this was so long, but after having dealt with this myself, I hate to see others going through the same downward spiral that seems like it has no way out.

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    I read somewhere that a marathon runner has blood that is similar to someone that is anemic. Sounds like you push it and have been pushing it for a long time.
    Go to the your doctor because he or she has the resourses to find the problem.

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    Well, people are right here about going to a physician and having a simple blood test to eliminate obvious problems.

    But it could be simple also.

    Some people subscribe to the "no pain, no gain" school and think that when they exercise they HAVE to constantly beat up their body. I don't know if you are one of these people or not. The body needs to recover from any hard exertion. So you either have to ride at a moderate pace on some days for "recovery" rides or more drastically take a "rest" day. Now if you are not beating the daylights out of your body by working out too intensely, than you should, by all means go see a physician.

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    Thanks for the help guys. I am visiting my doc tomarrow. From what i have read I myself believe the problem to be over training. I had gotten into this crazy mindset to push, push, push every day. When i woke up i hurt in the morning, and would simply tell myself ... "OK tomarrow i'll take off" and each day i said that i thought i would wait one more day. My daily routine over the winter became a hard hour on the trainer in the morning (like 5:30 ish) and then a 4 - 8 mile or so run in the after noon. Once good Weather came around it switched to a long morning ride and afternoon run or two runs. Thanks once more for the support.

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