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Old 07-17-05, 10:40 AM   #1
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Carrying a conversation at 170bpm.

I was jogging today and realized, I could hold a conversation with full sentences and my HRM had me at around 170bpm. I'm 24 so my max should be around 200.
I thought once you got to over 80% max, you're not supposed to be able to hold a conversation?
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Old 07-17-05, 01:36 PM   #2
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That just means your hrm is screwed.
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How many words a minute? I'm guessing that number is pretty high too!
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i thought 90% max was not able to hold a conversation.

nevertheless, HRM is not related to being able to talk. Breaths per minute (second? ) is the important thing. I breathe much more slowly than most people, so when I can't hold a conversation, it means I'm balls-to-the-wall, about to pass out.

Like this morning, when I got dropped twice by people who were far more obnoxiously outfitted than myself
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i'd bet your max heart rate is something above 200. i frequently get up to 170 bpm and could carry on a conversation, and my max rate should be less than yours because i'm a few years older. i think the standard (220 - age) is a very converative estimate, something for the general public.
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ii think the standard (220 - age) is a very converative estimate, something for the general public.
It's a fallacy. When this formula works (and it doesn't often), it's due to pure coincidence. Find out what your max is, and then do the math to determine your hr zones in terms of % of max. Absolute numbers mean nothing when it comes to heart rate. Your percentage of max is the only relevant number.
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i'd bet your max heart rate is something above 200. i frequently get up to 170 bpm and could carry on a conversation, and my max rate should be less than yours because i'm a few years older. i think the standard (220 - age) is a very converative estimate, something for the general public.
Hmmm, I've been in pretty decent shape all of my life and my max is far below that formula. According to 220-age, my max should be 194. I've hit 187 and feel like I'm going to pass out (seeing spots and such). I'm no doctor but based on many discussions on this site, max heart rate has nothing to do with how in shape you are. Sustaining a high % of max heart rate does though and this is really all one should be concerned with if they want to compare to others (reiterating what bac said).
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Yeah, I'd say conversaton cut-off is more like 90%
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It's a fallacy. When this formula works (and it doesn't often), it's due to pure coincidence. Find out what your max is, and then do the math to determine your hr zones in terms of % of max. Absolute numbers mean nothing when it comes to heart rate. Your percentage of max is the only relevant number.
Actually percentage of LT is the only real number because LT can be easily found, max can not.
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Max HR isn't related to fitness very closely. Sometimes maintaining a decent/high fitness level can slow the age-related drop in MHR, but everyone responds a little bit differently in that area.
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If it was 95degrees, you might be at 170bpm just simply walking.
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