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Old 07-29-05, 07:54 PM   #1
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Okay, so I'm not going to win any races with the numbers my new HRM just put out.

Riding @ 90-100 rpm in 39/19 my HR is already 160!!
I know I'm capable of busting out of the gates in 53/19 & 53/21 for extended periods of time [1 - 2 hours]; so I can only imagine what my HR is at when I'm there; mind you, I'm in pain the entire time in this gear...

Knowing that I've got to bridge my aerobic HR with anerobic performance - what's the best method to bring my HR down [bridge the HR with performance]

1/ Start in a gear that my HR will be ~60% of my approximate max [120 - 125 bpm]? But I'm thinking... what the hell gear will my HR be when already at 39/19 my HR is about 35 beats higher?

2/ Continue churning at 39/25 @ 90ish rpm until downshifting doesn't change my lowest capable HR?

3/ Your suggestion?

Again - all thoughts/posts are greatly appreciated
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Old 07-30-05, 09:13 AM   #2
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Riding @ 90-100 rpm in 39/19 my HR is already 160!!
I know I'm capable of busting out of the gates in 53/19 & 53/21 for extended periods of time [1 - 2 hours]; so I can only imagine what my HR is at when I'm there; mind you, I'm in pain the entire time in this gear...
Whats your max right now? How long have you been training? What kind of terrain are you riding, ie Flat? Hills? Rolling?

If you riding 1-2 hrs in slight pain your probably right at your lactacte threshold. Thats the point just before you go anerobic.

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Knowing that I've got to bridge my aerobic HR with anerobic performance - what's the best method to bring my HR down [bridge the HR with performance]
Keep riding at 65%-80% for long periods. You need to train you aerobic capcity before you even think about working your anerobic systems. This is called base training. As you get fitter, your HR will come down for a given amount of work. But first you have to get past the point where every ride feels like an interval workout. This takes about 2 weeks to a month, hang in there.

3/ Your suggestion?

Put the monitor away and take the computer off the bike and just train. You'll ride better if you dont know the numbers. Just ride with out the stuff for a month or so until you feel more comfortable pushing bigger gears. Stay off the big ring. Just enjoy riding the bike for a while.
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Old 07-30-05, 01:36 PM   #3
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Whats your max right now? How long have you been training? What kind of terrain are you riding, ie Flat? Hills? Rolling?
If you riding 1-2 hrs in slight pain your probably right at your lactacte threshold. Thats the point just before you go anerobic.
Keep riding at 65%-80% for long periods. You need to train you aerobic capcity before you even think about working your anerobic systems. This is called base training. As you get fitter, your HR will come down for a given amount of work. But first you have to get past the point where every ride feels like an interval workout. This takes about 2 weeks to a month, hang in there.
3/ Your suggestion?
Put the monitor away and take the computer off the bike and just train. You'll ride better if you dont know the numbers. Just ride with out the stuff for a month or so until you feel more comfortable pushing bigger gears. Stay off the big ring. Just enjoy riding the bike for a while.
Racer,
I believe my max is around 208 & my low is 40.
I've been training POORLY - as I discovered that I did TOO much anerobic training at the gym on spinners; for about 8 months or so [5 days/wk].
So now I think I've wasted my aerobic system away so I'm left with zip.
I usually ride flats now, but during my "grey" phase I did whatever the road offered.
Due to the coming school year, I plan to just pop an aerobic ride every morning or do weights if the weather's bad. Hopefully these eight months will produce better and longer results than my previous bout.
I acutally just came back from an aerobic metric - felt okay; slower than my usual pace, but definitely a longer ride... sadly, nature's BIG calling kept bugging me the last 10 clicks.
Hahahaa...

Thanks for your advice,
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definitely a longer ride... sadly, nature's BIG calling kept bugging me the last 10 clicks.
Hahahaa...

That was friggen hilarious! Thanks for the chuckle, I know the feeling.
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Riding in my 39/18 i'm usually pegging 160/170 @ 120-130rpm on flats. No idea what my max is.

Come out to tomorrows TBN ride at 10am simplyred.
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Didn't you mention in one of your other threads that you had a power meter? That's a much better gauge of intensity. As was stated heart rate in a given gear means nothing without knowing environmental factors including wind and temperature. It's been hot in Toronto, too. My heart rate was 130 bpm in 53/15 at 55 km/h in the donut ride yesterday. At other times it was 177 bpm in 39/21 at 20 km/h. Can you guess which was harder?
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I'm having similar results as SimplyRed -

To get it somewhat into range I had to SLOW DOWN 8MPH on the flats and no pedaling on the decents! Going from 23mph down to like 14. Hills from 10 down to 6.

it's taking forever to get to work!!! What's the bestway to work up from these dog-slow speeds?

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Commute route 10mi hilly long ascents
Riding simiilar route but varying distances for 4yrs
Resting is 55 and Max is 197BPM

Before: Warmup 2 minutes
Ride 35Mins @ about 178-183BPM light huffing and puffing at the end of the ride
53/19 gear 95 cadance

Now Warmup 2 minutes
Ride 30min @ 133-165BPM
5 mins 168-175 on the steepest part of the ascent
39/21 gear 101 cadance
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200+ Max HR and 40 resting HR -- Man you've got to get a grip - one foot is in the grave already. See a doctor - write you will, talk to a priest - you could be dead tomorrow.

On the other hand, you could just ride with the guys in the club that are just a little faster than you and find out where and how hard they ride -- naw........
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Racer,
So now I think I've wasted my aerobic system away so I'm left with zip.
-Peter
How's your progress?? How long are you now able to stay in the aerobic zone?

Here's mine
Now Warmup 2 minutes
Ride 30min @ 122-165BPM ------>Notice the bottom number is dropping
5 mins 166-171 on the steepest part of the ascents ---->Notice the top number is dropping
39/19 gear 98 cadance

One the way home, I do one fake "I'm tired" stop at the end of the 2nd decent - just to let my heart catch up...no huffing and puffing at all.

It's too hard to go this slow every day, so 2 days a week, I ride as fast and hard as I like -NO HRM.
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