Energy bars with less fat?
08-08-05, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Stubacca
Like I say, different strokes for different folks. Pria bars and Powerbars taste way too sweet for me.
Compared to the Clif bars the OP is currently consuming, you'd need 2-and-a-bit Pria bars to get the same serving size and calories (which IS an important factor on a ride), not only would total fat be higher, but you're also talking 5g+ of saturated fat per comparable serving (an extra 3-4g over what the OP is eating now). When the OP is approaching these as a snack, that's a significant amount of saturated fat. If you like the taste, then I guess it can be justified easily enough.
In any case, I try to keep saturated fats as low as possible. For those of us (like the OP) who are still trying to lose some weight, you need to approach your diet as a whole more than just as individual servings. Individual servings is an easy trap to fall in to. e.g. One scoop of ice cream won't hurt. One scoop of ice cream after a few slices of pizza will. If you can cut 2-3g of saturated fat out of a serving, that's worth doing.
Compared to the Clif bars the OP is currently consuming, you'd need 2-and-a-bit Pria bars to get the same serving size and calories (which IS an important factor on a ride), not only would total fat be higher, but you're also talking 5g+ of saturated fat per comparable serving (an extra 3-4g over what the OP is eating now). When the OP is approaching these as a snack, that's a significant amount of saturated fat. If you like the taste, then I guess it can be justified easily enough.
In any case, I try to keep saturated fats as low as possible. For those of us (like the OP) who are still trying to lose some weight, you need to approach your diet as a whole more than just as individual servings. Individual servings is an easy trap to fall in to. e.g. One scoop of ice cream won't hurt. One scoop of ice cream after a few slices of pizza will. If you can cut 2-3g of saturated fat out of a serving, that's worth doing.
I am also dieting, but I'm not completely adverse to fat- I eat very little saturated fat in my diet. Saturated fat, in low amounts is still fine. If we were talking about 15- 20 g of fat, that's one thing, but 2- 3 grams of fat? That is insane to debate over. I am also working on weight loss, and as long as I continue doing the type of riding I'm doing, I'm going to continue losing weight, as I have been doing all summer, since I started consciously working towards weight loss.
There are so many people out there that believe that saturated fat is a bad thing- it isn't... in SMALL amounts. 5- 10 g of fat in your diet is nothing, and it's easily burned in a long ride- that is, unless you are planning your fitness incorrectly. Or perhaps you're eating incorrectly? Perhaps, in your quest for weight loss, you are exercising so much and eating so little, that you are actually hindering weight loss, which is why some people struggle with weight loss.
Regardless of what energy bar you choose, to argue over such an insignificant amount of fat and in the same breath, exclaim that you exercise, yet you have problems with weight loss (not saying you specifically, but people in general), makes me think that people could use a good dietitian to explain exactly how food works to fuel the body, and put together a good eating plan so that one is not obsessing over a few grams of fat. Consider this (for instance): for a diet of 1600 calories, you should eat no more than 53 grams of fat... (from a lecture I took from Dr. Nancy Clarke). That's a whole lot of wiggle room for you, and most people aren't aware just how many grams of fat they really need in their diet without stressing out. Fat is necessary for us to absorb some vitamins we consume, so it's not a bad thing to have some of it in your diet.
Again, saturated fat in high amounts= bad. But 2- 3 g of fat extra in your diet is not something to stress over when you exercise regularly and are eating healthy. If you're really that concerned where you're going to obsess over that little amount of saturated fats, then again, see a dietitian and get some eating plans for your exercise.
And P.S.- if you are eating pizza and ice cream, I don't think you're dieting...
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
And like you said, it's different strokes for different folks. I like the sweet taste of the Powerbars and Pria, and I don't like the taste of dirt, hence my extreme dislike of Clif.
I am also dieting, but I'm not completely adverse to fat- I eat very little saturated fat in my diet. Saturated fat, in low amounts is still fine. If we were talking about 15- 20 g of fat, that's one thing, but 2- 3 grams of fat? That is insane to debate over. I am also working on weight loss, and as long as I continue doing the type of riding I'm doing, I'm going to continue losing weight, as I have been doing all summer, since I started consciously working towards weight loss.
There are so many people out there that believe that saturated fat is a bad thing- it isn't... in SMALL amounts. 5- 10 g of fat in your diet is nothing, and it's easily burned in a long ride- that is, unless you are planning your fitness incorrectly. Or perhaps you're eating incorrectly? Perhaps, in your quest for weight loss, you are exercising so much and eating so little, that you are actually hindering weight loss, which is why some people struggle with weight loss.
Regardless of what energy bar you choose, to argue over such an insignificant amount of fat and in the same breath, exclaim that you exercise, yet you have problems with weight loss (not saying you specifically, but people in general), makes me think that people could use a good dietitian to explain exactly how food works to fuel the body, and put together a good eating plan so that one is not obsessing over a few grams of fat. Consider this (for instance): for a diet of 1600 calories, you should eat no more than 53 grams of fat... (from a lecture I took from Dr. Nancy Clarke). That's a whole lot of wiggle room for you, and most people aren't aware just how many grams of fat they really need in their diet without stressing out. Fat is necessary for us to absorb some vitamins we consume, so it's not a bad thing to have some of it in your diet.
Again, saturated fat in high amounts= bad. But 2- 3 g of fat extra in your diet is not something to stress over when you exercise regularly and are eating healthy. If you're really that concerned where you're going to obsess over that little amount of saturated fats, then again, see a dietitian and get some eating plans for your exercise.
And P.S.- if you are eating pizza and ice cream, I don't think you're dieting...
Koffee
I am also dieting, but I'm not completely adverse to fat- I eat very little saturated fat in my diet. Saturated fat, in low amounts is still fine. If we were talking about 15- 20 g of fat, that's one thing, but 2- 3 grams of fat? That is insane to debate over. I am also working on weight loss, and as long as I continue doing the type of riding I'm doing, I'm going to continue losing weight, as I have been doing all summer, since I started consciously working towards weight loss.
There are so many people out there that believe that saturated fat is a bad thing- it isn't... in SMALL amounts. 5- 10 g of fat in your diet is nothing, and it's easily burned in a long ride- that is, unless you are planning your fitness incorrectly. Or perhaps you're eating incorrectly? Perhaps, in your quest for weight loss, you are exercising so much and eating so little, that you are actually hindering weight loss, which is why some people struggle with weight loss.
Regardless of what energy bar you choose, to argue over such an insignificant amount of fat and in the same breath, exclaim that you exercise, yet you have problems with weight loss (not saying you specifically, but people in general), makes me think that people could use a good dietitian to explain exactly how food works to fuel the body, and put together a good eating plan so that one is not obsessing over a few grams of fat. Consider this (for instance): for a diet of 1600 calories, you should eat no more than 53 grams of fat... (from a lecture I took from Dr. Nancy Clarke). That's a whole lot of wiggle room for you, and most people aren't aware just how many grams of fat they really need in their diet without stressing out. Fat is necessary for us to absorb some vitamins we consume, so it's not a bad thing to have some of it in your diet.
Again, saturated fat in high amounts= bad. But 2- 3 g of fat extra in your diet is not something to stress over when you exercise regularly and are eating healthy. If you're really that concerned where you're going to obsess over that little amount of saturated fats, then again, see a dietitian and get some eating plans for your exercise.
And P.S.- if you are eating pizza and ice cream, I don't think you're dieting...
Koffee
The OP is talking about eating these bars as snacks, a couple of times a day. The discussion is not centered around what works when you're out on a long ride. Higher fat bars can add up quickly in the OP's situation.Different dietitians and different nutritionists will give different advice. Somewhere in there is what works for each person.
** just to clarify, I'm really not that concerned with which bar works for which person. I'm glad you like Powerbars and Pria bars. I pointed out the fat contents of Powerbars only because you recommended them as a 2g of fat option with no HFCS, which was not quite true. There's absolutely nothing wrong with them, and everyone out there should eat whatever they want. The OP is obviously concerned about the fat content, is a grown man, and can figure out what works for him quite well I'm sure... Nutrition advice gained from a forum on the internet is worth exactly what you pay for it.
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Hey funny guy
I went to buy a Clif Bar today,( but opted for the chocolate donut instead, true story) but it only had
2.5g fat. Don't know which one it was, I would have paid more attention if I'd read your thread first, but maybe just your favorites are higher?
I went to buy a Clif Bar today,( but opted for the chocolate donut instead, true story) but it only had
2.5g fat. Don't know which one it was, I would have paid more attention if I'd read your thread first, but maybe just your favorites are higher?
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Originally Posted by HelenHeart
Hey funny guy
I went to buy a Clif Bar today,( but opted for the chocolate donut instead, true story) but it only had
2.5g fat. Don't know which one it was, I would have paid more attention if I'd read your thread first, but maybe just your favorites are higher?
I went to buy a Clif Bar today,( but opted for the chocolate donut instead, true story) but it only had
2.5g fat. Don't know which one it was, I would have paid more attention if I'd read your thread first, but maybe just your favorites are higher?
