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Old 08-10-05, 10:10 PM   #1
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Best time to eat fibre?

When would the best time to eat soluble and insoluble fiber be to best reap their benefits?
In the case of soluble fiber being used to eliminate cholesterol and such, would one eat some psyllium right after a steak dinner, or would it really matter when it was eaten just as long as it is being eaten?
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Old 08-11-05, 05:51 AM   #2
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doesnt matter. i find that it is easiest for me to get fiber in at breakfast. most of the remainder of my fiber comes from whole wheat and fibrous vegetables throughout the day. just be sure you are getting aroung 30 grams per day throughout the day.
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Morning mean - fiber
Snack - fiber
Lunch - fiber
Snack - fiber
Dinner - fiber
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You should be golden, and I don't jest. Eat at least one item a meal that has 4g+ of fiber and you'll reap the benefits of it, i.e. lower cholesterol and efficient weight loss.
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As much as you can stomach as often as you can.
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before you get too constipated
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I used to take Metamucil right before bed time. Made the mornings more eventful
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When yer turds don't float. Just keep eating yer fibre till they float. You don't have to get both ends up. If they look like an alligator, that's OK.
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When would the best time to eat soluble and insoluble fiber be to best reap their benefits?
In the case of soluble fiber being used to eliminate cholesterol and such, would one eat some psyllium right after a steak dinner, or would it really matter when it was eaten just as long as it is being eaten?
Yes it does matter!
For optimal benefits you should take fiber 10 minutes before your meals.
Fibers, soluble fibers in particular, bind bile acids in the small intestine.
Bile acids are synthesized in the liver from cholesterol and secreted into the
small intestine.
2. The fiber-bile acids complex prevents bile acids from being reabsorbed from
the small intestine,enhancing the secretion of bile acids.
3. To replace the lost acids, cholesterol is drawn from the circulation for the
production of bile acids,thereby reducing the blood cholesterol levels.

It is known that this effect is not achieved with the use of a single source of fiber like psyllium (Metamucil). In addition, increased excretion of fats helps to lower a major risk factor for cancer because of many carcinogens are fat soluble substances absorbed in the foods we eat.

This technology for reducing cholesterol has been patented and clinically tested.
The fiber I use has both soluble and insoluble fibers + vitamins and other specific ingredients to be effective.
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I think probiotics are an excellent companion to fibre. They police up the undigested meat from your lower intestine and keep your colon happy. They also have several other benefits such as keeping bad bacteria in check and aiding in digestion. Some research shows they also can help with allergies and several types of infections. I try to eat 1 serving of yogurt per day, which is all you really need unless you are taking antibiotics (in which case you might want to eat more). Just make sure it has active cultures, which almost all do. If you can't stand yogurt, you can take acidophilus supplements, but most are not nearly as effective as a serving of yogurt.
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Yes it does matter!
For optimal benefits you should take fiber 10 minutes before your meals.
Fibers, soluble fibers in particular, bind bile acids in the small intestine.
Bile acids are synthesized in the liver from cholesterol and secreted into the
small intestine.
2. The fiber-bile acids complex prevents bile acids from being reabsorbed from
the small intestine,enhancing the secretion of bile acids.
3. To replace the lost acids, cholesterol is drawn from the circulation for the
production of bile acids,thereby reducing the blood cholesterol levels.

It is known that this effect is not achieved with the use of a single source of fiber like psyllium (Metamucil). In addition, increased excretion of fats helps to lower a major risk factor for cancer because of many carcinogens are fat soluble substances absorbed in the foods we eat.

This technology for reducing cholesterol has been patented and clinically tested.
The fiber I use has both soluble and insoluble fibers + vitamins and other specific ingredients to be effective.
Regards,
That is interesting about the timing for taking a fiber supplement, I'll have to switch my routine to before meals. Also, you mention a more broad spectrum supplement...what do you recommend? What do you think about this one:

http://tinyurl.com/8x2qe

It's what I am currently using for an extra source of fiber...
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Originally Posted by 2legit
Yes it does matter!
For optimal benefits you should take fiber 10 minutes before your meals.
Fibers, soluble fibers in particular, bind bile acids in the small intestine.
Bile acids are synthesized in the liver from cholesterol and secreted into the
small intestine.
2. The fiber-bile acids complex prevents bile acids from being reabsorbed from
the small intestine,enhancing the secretion of bile acids.
3. To replace the lost acids, cholesterol is drawn from the circulation for the
production of bile acids,thereby reducing the blood cholesterol levels.

It is known that this effect is not achieved with the use of a single source of fiber like psyllium (Metamucil). In addition, increased excretion of fats helps to lower a major risk factor for cancer because of many carcinogens are fat soluble substances absorbed in the foods we eat.

This technology for reducing cholesterol has been patented and clinically tested.
The fiber I use has both soluble and insoluble fibers + vitamins and other specific ingredients to be effective.
Regards,
Sorry, but this makes no sense to me. Eat fiber 10 minutes before the meal? Fiber is the meal! I mean, I get my fiber from the delicious food I eat. I eat beans (best), vegetables, fruit, grains -- all have fiber.

There's no way I'm going to follow a "diet" that treats food like medicine -- take food 10 minutes before the meal. What foolishness!

I bet you really hate food, don't you? I mean, a science book is not a cook book! Either that or you are trying to sell some kind of product. Aha! That's it, isn't it?
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Sorry, but this makes no sense to me. Eat fiber 10 minutes before the meal? Fiber is the meal! I mean, I get my fiber from the delicious food I eat. I eat beans (best), vegetables, fruit, grains -- all have fiber.

There's no way I'm going to follow a "diet" that treats food like medicine -- take food 10 minutes before the meal. What foolishness!

I bet you really hate food, don't you? I mean, a science book is not a cook book! Either that or you are trying to sell some kind of product. Aha! That's it, isn't it?
No I am not trying to sell anything, but let me refresh your memory as to what the ORIGINAL question was:
I quote akarius:
"When would the best time to eat soluble and insoluble fiber be to best reap their benefits?
In the case of soluble fiber being used to eliminate cholesterol and such, would one eat some psyllium right after a steak dinner, or would it really matter when it was eaten just as long as it is being eaten?"


One would assume by the question asked, that akarius may be considering to use a supplement to reap the benefits of eliminating cholesterol, etc.

Don't jump to conclusions! I have studied the effects of fiber or should I say lack of in our diet for more than 7 years and in order to prevent digestive health problems, colon and breast cancers, heart problems, etc. the American Cancer Association and American Heart Association recommend that we eat at least 30 grams a day. (see their respective websites). I see by the foods you eat that you are doing your best to get as much fiber on a DAILY basis. Good for You!
Let me just educate you for one moment about amounts of fiber from your food: to get 30 grams a day you would need to eat 35 carrots;22 bananas;14 apples and 7 heads of lettuce EVERY day. I myself supplement with 15 gms a day and the rest I get from my diet.
In conclusion, once again, I am not selling anything BUT I am trying to answer the question that was asked regarding when is the most BENEFICIAL time to take fiber.!
Blessings,
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I have no difficulty whatsoever getting 30 grams of fiber a day from the normal "American" foods that I eat. Every single day. And no supplements. Beans, citrus fruits, vegetables, whole grains, dried fruits and many other foods contain fiber. Here's a pretty reasonable meal plan for one day, including one snack:
A large serving of oatmeal with raisins for breakfast is 5 grams. Eat a piece of WW toast with it and that's 2 more grams. Have a sandwich at lunch and that's about 5 grams for just the 2 slices of WW bread. A bowl of chili beans with your sandwich is 5 more grams. One serving of pinto beans at dinner is 6 grams. Add some brown rice for 3 grams and a serving of broccoli for 2 more. Enjoy a snack of popcorn for another 2 grams.
Count it up 2legit. That's 30 grams, easy as pie. It is normal nutritious and delicious food. You learn how to amke it in a cookbook, not a science book. And I easily could have gotten even more fiber with a salad, some tomato on the sandwich, a spoon of bran in the oatmeal, etc., etc. Anybody in America could eat like this every day and enjoy it.

How come you can only get 15 grams in your diet? How come you have to get the other 15 from expensive nasty supplements. In 7 years of studying nutrition you should have learned more about real food. How come you can't link us to the peer reviewed journal articles that tell akarius why he has to eat some supplement exactly 10 minutes before he eats real food? In 7 years of studying you should have learned more about science too.
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