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Old 09-01-02, 08:35 PM   #1
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Asleep at the bars

I've now been through two saddles - 1 Selle San Marco Concor (hard and round) and a Selle Italia Max Flite.

I still have the same problem - certain, ahem, private parts falling asleep. You know, like when your arm falls asleep at night when you're sleeping? This is very disturbing to me, and so I pose two questions:

1. Are there any saddles for road bikes that specifically help avoid this?
2. Does this create any long-term side effects?

I hate to bring up such a touchy subject, but I think I may not be the only one affected by this phenomenon.
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Old 09-01-02, 08:53 PM   #2
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Yes sir, there are many new seat designs that address this. One is the "Specialized Body Geometry" which is being discussed in this tread. Check out your LBS, they'll probalby let you check out some different ones on your bike.

I have heard there can be lasting effects like lower fertility rate and even impotence.
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I believe I have the two best saddles for this
type of situation. first is Selle Italia Max Flite Trans Am
(hey I'm older, I like the wider saddle), this one has a cut
out and reduces pressure that way.
The second (and it is counter intuitive) is a Brooks B-17.
Wonderful saddle, takes a while to get it dialed in but once
it does its great. Whats really weird about the brooks is that
it feels better with the nose raised up about 1-2 mm. Seems
like the angle would be uncomfortable but its not.
Numbness (see I avoided the obvious pun here)? Never
been a problem.

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Old 09-02-02, 05:30 AM   #4
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I still have the same problem - certain, ahem, private parts falling asleep.
If it sleeps in the day does that mean it'll be up all night?
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Old 09-02-02, 02:43 PM   #5
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Before throwing money at a new saddle, investigate that your saddle position is right. If it is too high, that will surely compound any problem.

Second, make sure that you are riding far enough back on the saddle. The greatest part of your weight should be on the sit bones. Several years ago, someone pointed out to me that I was perched out on the nose like a diver ready to jump. I shifted backward (moving my saddle a bit forward to compensate), and it was much better. Before that, I had just thought a little numbness was normal.

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I have had that problem too. Quite disconcerting having a numb thingy. I now have a new Brooks Professional and even though I haven't done a hundred miles on it yet and still breaking it in, I haven't suffered any more numbness. I also find a slight uptilt of the Brooks seems to be required. Maybe once its properly broken in and found its shape I can level it out again. I think a Brooks is the way to go, just my opinion of course.
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Maybe once its properly broken in and found its shape I can level it out again.
why mess with it? If the Brooks is comfortable out of the
box leave it alone. Well, do apply the proofhide both on
top and bottom (leave it on the bottom, nice sealant).
No other break in needed, and DON'T mess with the tensioning
screw. . .

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Hi Marty. I've done the proofhide thing. I didn't mean level out the shape. I didn't express myself really well. I meant take the tilt off the saddle. It points slightly up at the moment. Take care now.

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Hi Marty. I've done the proofhide thing. I didn't mean level out the shape. I didn't express myself really well. I meant take the tilt off the saddle. It points slightly up at the moment. Take care now.

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Yusuf,
Nope I understood what you meant. If the saddle is comfortable
don't mess with the tilt. Mine is also nose up about 1 or 2 mm.
(maybe more?). Alot of the threads about Brooks state that this
is preferred setup, all I know is it works for me and it will stay
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I, too, found that I preferred the nose a little high on my B-17. With the saddle level, I tended to slide forward. Having the nose high made it easier to keep my weight back on the wider part of the saddle.
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Sliding down the saddle can also add to chafing, pushing your butt back up, sliding down again...
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I don't have a Brooks (just some mid-range Italian racing thing), but...

Back when I had my saddle to high, I thought that I should tilt it down in the front to take pressure off the groin. Wrong move! Not only did it increase the pressure on my hands, but it also increased my numbness problem.

So I tried tilting it slightly up in the front (5 degrees at the very most). Miracles of miracles, it dramatically helped, actually reducing the pressure on the groin and encouraging me to ride further back on the saddle. Once I finally figured out that I should lower the saddle out of the stratosphere I have been sitting pretty.

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