My newest enemy - Wheat
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Originally Posted by wabbit
isnt there a test for celiac disease? I know there is a lot of information about it.. i was recently worried that I had it but i don't. I'm able to eat pasta and bread...apparently it's inherited, if someone in your family had celiac you're likely to get it as well.
The usual screening is a an antibody test , the most specific and sensitive are antitissue transglutaminase antibody,(TTG) and EMA or endomyosial antibody followed by antigliadin antibodies (both IGA and IGG). (the latter can be postive in other diseases.) However, if you are already on a gluten free diet the tests will be negative (In fact they , especially the antigliadin antibodies, are used to assess person's compliance with gluten free diet along with history.) Thus, this blood work needs to be drawn while you are on a normal diet full of glutens! If they are positive, then the gastroenterologists recommend a small bowel biopsey. Internists, being less invasive, recommend a gluten free diet and see if the symptoms improve and may also recheck the antibodies (which usually disappear with the gluten free diet).
By the way, did you know Outback Steakhouse has gluten free entrees? (I believe one of the owners has Celiac Sprue)
It is common disease among whites about 1/250 (studies say anywhere from 1/80 to 1/300) in both continents Europe and America and very rare among Asians and Blacks.
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My very well-meaning parents took my wife and me to Outback Steakhouse for her birthday, when we were in the states once. Tragically embarassing. The only thing Aussie about that restaurant is the word "Outback" in the name. I wanted to crawl under the table and hide in shame, but my wife kept a good sense of humour about it.
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
My very well-meaning parents took my wife and me to Outback Steakhouse for her birthday, when we were in the states once. Tragically embarassing. The only thing Aussie about that restaurant is the word "Outback" in the name. I wanted to crawl under the table and hide in shame, but my wife kept a good sense of humour about it.
Never liked it myself, the steaks were grizzly and the service was bad. I believe the chain started in Tampa Florida, unfortunately, it's one of the few places a celiac can eat unless they are real selective about what they order in other restaurants.
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i never knew that about outback.... never ate there either but I've heard it's less than spectacular.
Is there a test to find out if you have a candida infection, or intestinal yeast? I've been hearing about this and I'm just curious.
Is there a test to find out if you have a candida infection, or intestinal yeast? I've been hearing about this and I'm just curious.
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Originally Posted by wabbit
i never knew that about outback.... never ate there either but I've heard it's less than spectacular.
Is there a test to find out if you have a candida infection, or intestinal yeast? I've been hearing about this and I'm just curious.
Is there a test to find out if you have a candida infection, or intestinal yeast? I've been hearing about this and I'm just curious.
Unfortunately no. There is a lot of controversy about intestinal candiasis ( i believe in it) but the diagnosis can be tricky and the diagnosis is best measured by response to therapy, (low sugar, low starch foods, antifungal therapy etc.) This a a hotly debated topic among allopathic medicine doctors but the naturopathic doctors have embraced this as a real disease entitity .
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My less than exciting news is that I did find some corn tortillas at my LGS. They were with the "Ethnic" foods, rather than the little Mexican food section.
Next question. Which is worse - wheat, or preservatives?
Next question. Which is worse - wheat, or preservatives?
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Next question. Which is worse - wheat, or preservatives?
Or if you listen to my naturopath.....alcohol and caffeine.
Seriously....all the good stuff is out the window.
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Oatmeal cookies? Rye bread? Rice pudding?
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Originally Posted by ed073
Or if you listen to my naturopath.....alcohol and caffeine.
Seriously....all the good stuff is out the window.
Seriously....all the good stuff is out the window.
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Ed, I've only had two beers this year, and quit caffeine 4 weeks ago. What would your naturopath say about Australia's favourite herbal crop?
I got off the coffee too.....but the grog is sooo much harder. Grand Finals, Bathurst 1000, MotoGP this weekend. I tell ya.....it's a conspiracy!!!
Herbal? Are we talkin that funny smell wafting around the LaTrobe Uni halls of residence???
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Originally Posted by ed073
I got off the coffee too.....but the grog is sooo much harder. Grand Finals, Bathurst 1000, MotoGP this weekend. I tell ya.....it's a conspiracy!!!
Herbal? Are we talkin that funny smell wafting around the LaTrobe Uni halls of residence???
Herbal? Are we talkin that funny smell wafting around the LaTrobe Uni halls of residence???
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Yeah, that stuff. What do naturopaths think of it? I heard a Uni in either SA or WA found it helps people with gastric reflux or something like that.
Dunno....my father in law is a GP, he sees too many come in with schizo symptroms after years of use.
I'm sure the occaisonal puff is fine.
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Originally Posted by ed073
Dunno....my father in law is a GP, he sees too many come in with schizo symptroms after years of use.
I'm sure the occaisonal puff is fine.
I'm sure the occaisonal puff is fine.
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Yeah, I reckon that the closet hydro stuff is a very bad thing with all the added chemicals. But my mum used the naturally grown stuff for pain relief from cancer. I'm not opposed to a bit of that myself, but it would be so infrequent as to be inconsequential. Losing weight would probably be the way to go for my reflux problems.
-pastry
-red and white wine
-tomato sauce
-rich stews/casseroles
-white bread
Being fat and old sucks!!!
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Originally Posted by ed073
I'm hearing ya....I'm 30kg more than when I was a racer. Never heard of gastric reflux until a couple of years ago. Now just about anything sets it off....
-pastry
-red and white wine
-tomato sauce
-rich stews/casseroles
-white bread
Being fat and old sucks!!!
-pastry
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-tomato sauce
-rich stews/casseroles
-white bread
Being fat and old sucks!!!
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Pretty much, but that's why I'm cutting out all the bad stuff now. Change is good. You go first.
you sound like my boss...."change is good...embrace it, don't fear it."
lol...
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Originally Posted by ed073
you sound like my boss...."change is good...embrace it, don't fear it."
lol...
lol...
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If you want a great tasting wheat free cookie try the Newman's Own "Fig Newmans".
These are made with barley flour, brown rice flour & yellow corn meal & are much tastier then Fig Newtons. Of course if you gave up sugar there aren't too many cookies out there you are going to be able to eat.
These are made with barley flour, brown rice flour & yellow corn meal & are much tastier then Fig Newtons. Of course if you gave up sugar there aren't too many cookies out there you are going to be able to eat.
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Actually, we're old enemies, it's just been properly identified. I gave up sugar, fizzy drinks, caffeine, and cookies. We'll still ride our bikes to baskin Robbins though. But wheat, that's in everything! So what do you guys and girls eat, if you can't eat wheat? I'll miss pizza. Anyone have any good recipes for cookies without wheat flower?
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I'll have to give that a go, and see what she can suggest. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
Cats fart? Really? I always though it was the elephants hiding under the bed... Yeah, don't tell my wife either!
Give up wheat? No way no how! There's just nothing better then a fresh, soft bagel toasted to perfection slathered with cream cheese
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Originally Posted by cycleprincess
Give up wheat? No way no how! There's just nothing better then a fresh, soft bagel toasted to perfection slathered with cream cheese
If it gave you crook guts for the rest of the day, I think you would.
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Originally Posted by ed073
If it gave you crook guts for the rest of the day, I think you would.
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I lost weight fairly easily using this diet:
morning: 1 serving Muscle Milk with whole milk (good supplament)
afternoon: meat and eggs or a sandwich. Not too many carbs but a few make digestion easier.
evening: Train! 10 hrs a week Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, 2 hour week strength and bike where I have to go and a longer ride on the weekend.
Night: Little to no carbs. Meat! A few vegetables, no fruit really. Water, some wine and a little beer keep you human.
Snack: Peanuts, nuts in general
Sat-Sun: Enjoy myself a bit more. Don't worry about what I'm eating (pasta, some snacks, some sugar)
Fruit doesn't agree with me (maybe genetics). Don't like it, don't miss it. Vegetables are hard to digest for everyone. I use them to keep regular. Sugar isn't good for anything.
I felt a bit weird when I switched. When fighting I felt a good bit weaker but after about two weeks, I dropped a few quick pounds and felt very strong.
The best thing is I didn't put on much mass, if any. My shoulders are still flexible as are my legs.
Great diet if you bike a lot or well....Jiu Jitsu
morning: 1 serving Muscle Milk with whole milk (good supplament)
afternoon: meat and eggs or a sandwich. Not too many carbs but a few make digestion easier.
evening: Train! 10 hrs a week Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, 2 hour week strength and bike where I have to go and a longer ride on the weekend.
Night: Little to no carbs. Meat! A few vegetables, no fruit really. Water, some wine and a little beer keep you human.
Snack: Peanuts, nuts in general
Sat-Sun: Enjoy myself a bit more. Don't worry about what I'm eating (pasta, some snacks, some sugar)
Fruit doesn't agree with me (maybe genetics). Don't like it, don't miss it. Vegetables are hard to digest for everyone. I use them to keep regular. Sugar isn't good for anything.
I felt a bit weird when I switched. When fighting I felt a good bit weaker but after about two weeks, I dropped a few quick pounds and felt very strong.
The best thing is I didn't put on much mass, if any. My shoulders are still flexible as are my legs.
Great diet if you bike a lot or well....Jiu Jitsu