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Old 10-05-05, 07:42 PM   #1
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My newest enemy - Wheat

Actually, we're old enemies, it's just been properly identified. I gave up sugar, fizzy drinks, caffeine, and cookies. We'll still ride our bikes to baskin Robbins though. But wheat, that's in everything! So what do you guys and girls eat, if you can't eat wheat? I'll miss pizza. Anyone have any good recipes for cookies without wheat flower?
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Don't most cookie recipes just require all purpose flour...as far as i know, that doesn't contain wheat. I've never heard of cookies requiring wheat flour.

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Old 10-05-05, 08:03 PM   #3
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Flour comes from wheat. Bleached flour is no better. See my problem?
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I did a google search for flourless cookies and found some stuff. I guess you're basically looking for gluten free recipes?
Flourless Cookies

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Yeah, hopefully ones that someone else has tried already.
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Look at how cute they are. What did they ever do to you?

I'm a bread fanboy like you cannot believe. I make my own pizza crust from scratch. Biscotti, Italian bread, French bread, beer biscuits. Dude, wheat owns me. I'd mainline wheat if I knew how.

For me, it isn't breads or carbs or whatever the dietary evil de jour is. It's just sensible portions and to shoot for the right types of carbs. Slow burning. Oats. Whole wheat bread. Brown rice instead of bleached.

Sounds to me like you have a bigger problem with sweets. The title of the thread should read "My newest enemy - Sugar."
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Are you allergic to gluten-ness foods? I know my girlfriends mom can't eat bread or certain foods high in gluten because they cause her to get migrains.

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[snip]Sounds to me like you have a bigger problem with sweets. The title of the thread should read "My newest enemy - Sugar."
If only it was that simple. Apparently, about 1 in 10 Americans has a digestive problem related to wheat. And here I thought it was collateral damage caused by too much spicy sushi and Mexican dishes. Wheat, not sugar, is the problem. Feel my pain.
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Are you allergic to gluten-ness foods? I know my girlfriends mom can't eat bread or certain foods high in gluten because they cause her to get migrains.

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At the risk of sharing more than you may want to know, the result of wheat consumption seems to be causing problems in the gastric area and beyond.
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I would go with brown rice flour, soy flour or even oat flour. Unless you are allergic to flour which i doubt. If wheat seems to be the problem then go with brown rice. They are good slow burning carbs.
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I'm in the same boat with flour but rather than messing around with alternatives I just went cold turkey and to be honest I dont realy miss it. Eating out and convenience food is the hardest to deal with but you can have rice which makes it easier.

Substitute more vegetables for the bread you can't have. Cucumber slices make nice biscuit substitutes for dips.

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I'm talking about mainlining wheat, and you want me to feel your pain?

Oat flour is probably a good bet if wheat flour is causing problems. There are others but if they fit the bill as well as wheat flour, then you'd perhaps see them in more recipes and the like.
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I'm talking about mainlining wheat, and you want me to feel your pain?

Oat flour is probably a good bet if wheat flour is causing problems. There are others but if they fit the bill as well as wheat flour, then you'd perhaps see them in more recipes and the like.
Oat flour is a mixed blessing. It has a different type of gluten to wheat so It works for some but to most it's still a glutenous grain and has to be avoided. Same with Kamut and Spelt which are ancient wheats.

Rice is the only sure fire safe option.

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Brown rice is pretty agreeable, and goes with a lot of stuff. I may need to add some Tabasco for variety though. I can only handle so much chicken, broccoli, and brown rice. But I feel heaps better, and nearly 4 weeks in, my KingGees are getting pretty loose.
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hell don't be a wimp for almost two years I could not eat anything with any carbs. hell all I could eat was emat soem cheese eggs nuts and some veggies.
I can now handle some simple sugars and they give me a ltitle bit of extra energy. I can somewhat eat rice and corn but not often. wheat will cause me problems for a couple of days.
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Expat....wot's yer problem with wheat?? Are you allergic? does it make you feel crook??

That's no good.

Apologies if someone has answered this......i just skimmed the posts.
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It has a mild disagreement with my stomach and ancillary plumbing.
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It has a mild disagreement with my stomach and ancillary plumbing.

No good at all. What are the symptoms?? How soon after you eat an enormous bowl of carbonara does it kick in??
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No good at all. What are the symptoms?? How soon after you eat an enormous bowl of carbonara does it kick in??
Mostly general grumblings, and a bit of discomfort. The symptoms seem to be a mild form of Coeliac disease. Nothing serious. I honestly thought it was all those tacos on fire, and spicy tuna. But since I cut out wheat and gluten products, I've felt much better. I also cut out sugar and caffeine, so I sleep much better and can control my blood sugar better too. It appears the secret to feeling good is to avoid all the foods that make you happy. Who knew?
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Wheat the enemy?

Well, I am far from any nutrition expert, but I have become quite fond of a big bowl of Wheaties with two heaping spoonfuls of ground up Flax Seed every morning. Cleans out the plumbing real good.
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Rice noodles are a good, so are Pao de Queijo as a snack (Brazilian cheese bread). They're made with Tapioca flour. Use corn tortillas instead of flour for your tacos. There's no real sub for wheat flour, just different options which are just as tasty.
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There are gluten free flour products, SWMBO has a few bags that she does stuff with. Under the name of Healtheries. Last night some nice pancakes, with oats mixed in to give it body. You will never look back.

Why? She is trying to cure my flatulence.


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Expatriate.

Is this a problem with just wheat or do other
grains produce the same results?
There are Spelt flour, Oat Flour, Potato Flour. There are all sorts
of substitutes for wheat in breadmaking.
There has been alot of focus on Gluten intollerance
lately, and some of the issues you are experiencing sound
similiar.
It is probably gunna take some experimentation to
figure out what you can tolerate.
I would suggest try a bit of gluten free bread first.
No Carbonara?
What do you spread Vegemite on?

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Why? She is trying to cure my flatulence.
Oh, man. Please don't tell my wife. I've convinced her it's the cats.
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Cats fart? Really? I always though it was the elephants hiding under the bed... Yeah, don't tell my wife either!
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