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    Why no Power Training Forum?

    I think there is need for a Power Training specific Forum... Power training is becoming more and more popular ... many member of my local club now have power meters and the specificity of issues and equipment warent a new forum IMHO.

    who do I talk to.. thoughts...

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    There are power training forums, just not here.

    try cyclingforums

    http://www.cyclingforums.com/f88-power-training.html

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    Why wouldn't you just post in this forum?
    "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ...'holy *****...what a ride!'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveE
    Why wouldn't you just post in this forum?
    That's what I'm wondering.

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    Check out the Wattage Forum. Several very knowledgeable people there:

    http://lists.topica.com/lists/wattage
    Managing Director, Undiscovered Country Tours

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveE
    Why wouldn't you just post in this forum?
    I have gone to the cyclingforumn's power forum and it's actually very good.. andy coggan and many physiologists post there...

    why not just post here...?

    well, it's just a matter of filtering through all the irrelevant posts and replies... power training changes your perspective a little bit.. HR no longer has the importance it once did... just a sort of 2ndary indicator. just that will put you into conflict with the vast majority of people who use HR as the primary means of regulating their training. with a power forum you'll be talking to people who are on the same page as you, rather than taking time to constantly have to explain where you are coming from. And you'll be talking to people with experience with power training and can share that with you... similar to if they had the touring and racing forums together. you'd have people giving all sort of contrary, conflicting advice because their perspective on riding is just different... not to mention the dif terminology etc, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveE
    Why wouldn't you just post in this forum?
    Quote Originally Posted by LBmtb
    That's what I'm wondering.

    Well, HR and power are two complete different measurements. One is a gauge for your cardiovascular system and the other is for your muscular system. Kinda like the tachometer and speedometer on a car, they measure different things. Both HR and power-measurements are useful indicators and can be used to optimize a training programme for maximum fitness-improvement rate. I find having both simultaneously and datalogging them over time provides some really interesting data. I don't think very many folks here are quite that hardcore...

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    Well, Danno, this is a "training" forum. Wouldn't it just be another topic of training discussion?

    doctorSpoc... I find a vast majority of the posts on BF uninteresting to me (been here too long, lot's of repetition). One ends up doing lot's of filtering anyway.

    I'm outta' here on training and nutrition, since I mostly just ride and do what feels right. Although I've been tempted to set up a training regimen, in the back of my mind is a fear that such a program will end up detracting from my love of cycling.
    "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ...'holy *****...what a ride!'"

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    Sure we can talk about it here. I was wondering how many people actually have an SRM or PowerTap? These are the only devices that measures actual force on the crank or hub and integrates with respect to time in order to come up with power. All the other devices do not measure force directly, but rather tries to calculate it using road-speed, road-grade, RPMs and calculate force using user-inputed data such as weight and riding position. But they are nowhere nearly as accurate as the SRM and PowerTap, so I'd relegate them to being about as useful for training as the odometer (slightly more useful than the clock).

    And you'd love cycling even more when you're kicking @ss in races! A regimented training-programme will get most people to within about 90-95% of their genetic potential in 2-3 years. I don't have any data on those who just goes out and rides, so I can't compare. But I'd surmise that those riders improve at 40-60% of the maximum rate possible, or reach that same level in 4-7 years maybe?

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    I've been cycling for nearly 30 years and ride with a pretty strong group (although I do get gapped off the front on the longer climbs I'm usually not at the very back), so I think I'm already close my maximum rate. I'll get a good idea on New Year's Day whether I've improved my climbing abilities since last year or fallen off. This year I'm also going to try a couple of 35+ 4/5 races instead of Masters 45+. There aren't a whole lot of 55+ RR's to choose from.
    "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ...'holy *****...what a ride!'"

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