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Old 02-04-06, 02:56 PM   #1
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Is there such a thing as a big person?

Will I always be "big"? I am 6'4", 255 pound, 35 year old. I am active. I'm a firefighter and work on the side doing landscaping. People don't say I'm fat, they say I'm big. I get people telling me all the time, "if I needed a firefighter, you're the guy I'd like to see get off the truck". I really have a huge ass, very large upper legs, and a bit of a tummy. I eat alright, but I do overeat somewhat, especially at night. I'm in good shape for a big guy and can generally keep up tomy friends up mountains, who are 60-80 pounds lighter than me. I exercise very consistentely with a little bit of weights and quite a bit of cardio. I have been almost exactly the same for ten years. I have never done any fad dieting and don't really want to start. Is there anyone who has run into this type of person before. What is a good method of losing weight, even a little bit at a time? Keep in mind that I have four kids seven and under, so time is a bit of a limitation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. If anyone was offended by my reference to my rear area, we can just call it buttocks.
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Old 02-04-06, 03:10 PM   #2
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First off, thanks for the "P.S." as I was greatly offended

I was kinda a big person as well. I still have a large frame. My shoulders are just wider than almost anyone I know. Right now I'm 6'2" 200 lbs. I was 6'2" 236lbs. Nobody ever said I was fat, just big. The only real way to know what you are composed of is to get your body fat measured. You can do this at an exercise science lab, with fat calipers, or with fat monitor scales. A warning with the scales though as it says I'm 21% body fat and I just went to a lab and now know tha I'm 16.5% body fat.

As for training it seems as though you are pretty active but it's the food thing that kept me big. Especially at night when I was more just trying to relax than to satisfy hunger. I've found an invaluable resource lately in a website called fitday.com. I've never had a food journal and this website makes it a piece of cake to log food and exercise. And at night if you like to watch some tv or something after the kids go to bed you could always ride a trainer for 45 min or an hour while you do that.

I'm in college so I don't have many time limitations durring this semester as it is a really easy one. But the first step is getting all of the data you can on yourself to see where you stand, then you can tell where you need to go. Good luck!
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Well,

There are small easy changes that can be made that can help with weight loss. Mostly on the topic of eating.

-I noticed you talked about how you "over eat" sometimes at night. Try to cut that out. Go to the point when your full and just use all your will power to push away the plate.

-Drink water. Lot's of water. You prob dont drink much water at as you need to. Also cut out soda, or sugary fruit juice (fruite juice is alright, but which one you have and how much of it can make the difference)

-Look at what you eat. Do you eat alot of fatty foods? Sugary foods? If so, try to eat less of them. Doesn't mean cut out sugar or fat completely, its just about lowering the amounts slowly.

try that for now, ill check back later with more.

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One thing would be to start weighing your food (everything!) and write down the total daily energy intake for 2-3 weeks. Eat the same way you always do and don't try to "make the numbers look good". After the 2-3 weeks, check back and calculate an average daily energy intake from that.

Next, find a good metabolism calculator so you can find your basal metabolism. (It will probably be around 2000 kcal/day.) Add to that the energy required to do what you normally do, both at home and at work (everything, including watching TV and eating - good calculators let you include this) to find your active metabolism. And finally, add the energy required for all your exercise. (Calculate your exercise energy expenditure for a week, and then divide by seven.)

Now compare the two values. One is energy in, the other is energy out.
If energy in is greater than energy out, you will gain weight. If energy out is greater than energy in, you will lose weight. Somewhat simplified, I know, but it's a starting point.
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I'm somewhat similar, only in the other direction.. People often call me "small," but never "slender," because I have a relatively powerful frame - I'll never be a skinny birdboned girl.

Slow diet changes for healthy eating: I've found that replacing grains goes a long way towards eating healthier. Stock your kitchen with 100% whole-wheat bread, quinoa, couscous, and other high-protein whole grains, and stop eating white rice, white bread, etc. It won't take long before you prefer the nice nutty taste that whole grains have.

Also, if you overeat because you simply like the act of eating, try to eat healthy fruits or vegetables. You can eat as many carrots or cantaloupe slices as you want to, instead of snacking on chips or cookies. It's a MUCH nicer feeling to realize that you've just polished off a whole cantaloupe and three apples than a whole bag of chips and container of dip. Try to get over any "that's diet food" type of feeling - it's just fresh, healthy food.
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Being overweight will never help you on the bike, but big guys are considered to have a slight advantage in the flats and a bigger advantage when sprinting or downhill. Usually, little guys are better on hills, by far.

BTW, "big" always means muscle, not fat. You might want to get your body composition checked to see how much fat to lean tissue you have.
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Thankyou very much for your quick responses, especially the specific advise. I know that eating at night for relaxation is a huge bad habit that is very hard to break. Roody, I don't understand your response at all. You didn't answer a single question that I actually asked and I don't think that "big" always means muscle to everybody as you stated, unless they've conducted some kind of poll I am unaware of.
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I feel your pain. I'm 6'3" and 215lbs right now. I've been riding about 150mi/wk for the last month and haven't changed weight at all. Last summer I was around 185lbs, so I'm not exactly sure where all my weight is sitting at the moment. I was measured for bodyfat with the calipers and came up at 13%.

It's really baffling me. I could lose that extra 3% (and probably will by racing season), but that's not going to make up the 30lb difference. Right now, I'm just resigning myself to cyldesdale-status.
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Old 02-05-06, 12:49 AM   #9
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I'm 6'6" @ 235. At the end of November I was down to 225. I had not seen 225 for 35 years but cutting out the junk food made a big difference. Also, eating a lot of rabbit food helps.

In the final analysis it comes down to burning more that you take in.
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fireguy,

I actually think eating at night isn't that big of a problem. the best thing that you can do is eat smaller meals and spread them out throughout the day. this is what I've done, and lost quite a lot of fat doing so.

but the most important [and THE ONLY WAY TO LOSE WEIGHT] is to consume less calories than you use in a day. eating a lot of vegetables [that are not carrots, corn, or the dreaded potatoe] has worked miracles for me.

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... screw gettin small. enjoy the benefits of being stronger than the rest, just make sure you're bike is strong enough.

I've never been little. I know I eat alot. I'm 6'3" and I weigh 260. I doubt I'll be less than 250 ever. I'll be happy to be 250. I'm strong. I work out, ride my bike 80-100 miles a week and keep my heart rate in the 75% zone. I know I'm not going to be a racer. I know that I will be slow on hills. I don't care. I like riding my bike, seeing the sites and getting out. I ride by myself anyway. Nobody to impress and so I just am happy to be out and alive and moving.

Plus, not too many people give me any *^&% either.
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Look at this website...

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/pi.shtml

The "ideal" healthy male is 15% body fat. This will give you an idea of where you are.




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Will I always be "big"? I am 6'4", 255 pound, 35 year old. I am active. I'm a firefighter and work on the side doing landscaping. People don't say I'm fat, they say I'm big. I get people telling me all the time, "if I needed a firefighter, you're the guy I'd like to see get off the truck". I really have a huge ass, very large upper legs, and a bit of a tummy. I eat alright, but I do overeat somewhat, especially at night. I'm in good shape for a big guy and can generally keep up tomy friends up mountains, who are 60-80 pounds lighter than me. I exercise very consistentely with a little bit of weights and quite a bit of cardio. I have been almost exactly the same for ten years. I have never done any fad dieting and don't really want to start. Is there anyone who has run into this type of person before. What is a good method of losing weight, even a little bit at a time? Keep in mind that I have four kids seven and under, so time is a bit of a limitation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. If anyone was offended by my reference to my rear area, we can just call it buttocks.
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Roody, I don't understand your response at all. You didn't answer a single question that I actually asked and I don't think that "big" always means muscle to everybody as you stated, unless they've conducted some kind of poll I am unaware of.
I'm sorry.
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fireguy - It sounds like you have a great base to begin with (more muscle, etc.). I wonder if you could do something like cut 300 or 500 calories a day. Or, change what you eat at night . . . like have fruit or healthy comfort foods like a sweet potato. If you drink beer, try cutting that for 6 weeks. I had a guy friend who did that and he lost 6 pounds in 6 weeks without changing anything else. Perhaps there is one food habit you could change or temporarily cut?

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fireguy, I think you watched to much of commercials or read magazines at stores. If you have a large belly you may want to get rid of that. Otherwise relax and enjoy your life, your weight is very good for people who do exercise. You will have your hard time when you stop working and exersise, like my father who's got pretty round with time.
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Thankyou all for your responses. I've been in Disneyland for a week with the wife and kids. Over 80 degrees, a little bit different from here. I think we logged about 70 Kms, not sure what that is in miles, according to the pedometer, so I don't think I got any bigger. I like what some of you had to say about being who you are, while trying to keep a certain standard of health of course. You look at cycling magazines so long, it's almost impossible not to strive for that "look". I know riding my spin bike has only made me stronger. I might as well just look forward to racing my friends up the mountain, even though the're almost 50 pounds lighter than I am. I would like to get rid of my gut, but honestly anything less than 235 for me seems very small. Anyways thanks for all your posts and I'll keep watching the board to get some new ideas on how to lose those stubborn pounds.
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