Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Training & Nutrition Learn how to develop a training schedule that's good for you. What should you eat and drink on your ride? Learn everything you need to know about training and nutrition here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-08-02, 11:28 AM   #1
roadbuzz
Just ride.
Thread Starter
 
roadbuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: C-ville, Va
Bikes:
Posts: 3,246
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Conditioning in the off-season

Which, for me, is now.

I don't race (mebbe try 1 next spring, I dunno), but in my on-going efforts to truly become a legend-in-my-own-mind, I ride pretty hard and try to improve most aspects of my cycling performance continually.

I was talking to some road racers who are all in "recovery mode" right now, and plan to remain so until January. It didn't occur to me to ask "why?" at the time (duh), so I'll ask here. To elaborate, they aren't completely slack, but they're mostly riding pretty easy, doing some Cyclocross racing, but apparently not really pushing it, or looking for gains. The focus is on maintenance, not improvement.

Anybody know what the thinking is, here? I can understand the mental need for a season of recovery, but is there also a physical benefit?

And in other news, Edmund Burke, dead of a heart attack at 53. He was cycling when it hit. :confused:
roadbuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-02, 11:52 AM   #2
webist
Huachuca Rider
 
webist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
Bikes: Fuji CCR1, Specialized Roubaix
Posts: 4,275
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My understanding is that real racers work toward peaking for an event, series of events or a season. Absent that incentive, there is little reason to risk injury, physical burn-out or loss of interest in the off season. Maintenance however, does make sense since thay don't want to start their conditioning from scratch at the beginning of the season.

College kids do a lot of home study during the academic year. They may read a bit during summer break, but seldom cram for an exam in their core curiculum which won't come around until school is again in session.

That's how I understand it anyway.
__________________
Just Peddlin' Around
webist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-02, 01:31 PM   #3
SteveE
Veni, Vidi, Vomiti
 
SteveE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Republic of Anaerobia
Bikes: Serotta Legend Ti, Romani Columbus SL, Soma Doublecross
Posts: 3,582
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
As it was explained to me last weekend by some "recovering" racers, the idea of going slow (70% of max. HR) is to develop the cardiovascular system by helping the growth of new capillaries. The idea being that you work on developing a base level of conditioning the promotes the formation of new blood vessels prior to working on your strength and endurance.

I'm not a racer but that's what they were telling me.
SteveE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-02, 04:47 PM   #4
Argonne
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Bikes:
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
There's an article on just this subject over on bike.com:

http://www.bike.com/template.asp?dat...ctory=training
Argonne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-02, 08:16 PM   #5
roadbuzz
Just ride.
Thread Starter
 
roadbuzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: C-ville, Va
Bikes:
Posts: 3,246
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks, guys. This is interesting stuff, and new to me. I'll give it a try and we'll see how it goes next winter/spring.
roadbuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-02, 10:26 PM   #6
IowaParamedic
Velolutionary
 
IowaParamedic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Iowa City area
Bikes:
Posts: 384
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I am strictly a recreational rider, so I don't have a peak of my season. I am have just returned to cycling this season, and am thrilled with it. I am also thrilled with the level of cardio fitness that I have gained, and I don't want to lose it.

This brings up a few of my off season goals:

Indoor Cycling Classes twice a week
Weight training three times per week
Random cross training on the Elliptical Trainer or Stairmaster

Last year, I spent more time during the off season walking. I think I will spend more time with activities that will allow for a higher heart rate.
IowaParamedic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-02, 10:30 AM   #7
Pat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Bikes: litespeed, cannondale
Posts: 2,795
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think racers ride easy in the off season "just because". To race successfully, you have to train a bunch. You also have to train with intelligence and discipline. And you have to train hard. Well all of that is hard to sustain from an emotional perspective.

In the off season, a racer can unwind and just put in easy miles, enjoy the scenery and relax. Also I think they get out and realize why they love cycling. I think doing this is almost less important from a physical basis then an emotional one. It just gets hard to go out and drag your carcass out for yet another hard training ride.

I have seen people who trained hard all the time. They never seemed to stay in the sport long. After awhile, the bike becomes an instrument of torture.

For myself, I am a recreational rider. I realized that I would probably never make a dime off of riding. I get into pretty good shape at times. But I enjoy my rides. Sometimes it is FUN to go out and ride hard. When it isn't, I don't do it.

A couple of my cousins were successful competive swimmers - they got through college on scholarship. Well, if you know about swimming it means putting in 3-4 hours per day each and every day for years on end. Neither one even gets into the pool anymore. Swimming ceased to be anything but hard work for them long ago.
Pat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:19 AM.