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Old 02-21-06, 12:26 AM   #1
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Fruitarian Diet (instead)
I'll be logging and keeping track of a fruitarian diet for an assumed period of 2 weeks.

When: February 21st to March 6th.
Why: Severe symptoms of upset stomach and queasiness. I have the worst bowel problems, gas, occasional food coming up, stomach pains, ect. Unable to sleep and feel unmotivated.
Goal: To get to know my body better. To clean out my system.
Water Beverages: Aquafina bottles, Various flavored waters.
Regular Fruit: Bananas, Granny Smith Apples (Green), Canned Fruits

I'll be logging how I feel, my activity, and other important details. Willing to answer any questions and take advice/criticism as it comes. I will continue training because of the spring season starting but I will not push my body. I will use my dad as a reference guide and feedback from immediate family as he is very experienced in fasting, disciplined eating, and nutrition in general.

Wish me luck.

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Old 02-21-06, 12:59 AM   #2
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A note of caution. Fasting is deffinitely NOT reccomended if your body is toxic. Don't know if your toxic? Well maybe you should find out first. Radical fasting is usualy best for those who are healthy in the first place and not realy a tool for regaining health.

OK is this going to be an Islamic fast where you eat only after dark or are you intending to last 2 weeks without calories.

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That sounds like a really bad idea.

Why do you have "severe symptoms of upset stomach"? Addressing that issue first, by seeing a doctor and doing an analysis of your diet, would be a much more rational approach.
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Old 02-21-06, 10:31 AM   #4
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Why do you have "severe symptoms of upset stomach"? Addressing that issue first, by seeing a doctor and doing an analysis of your diet, would be a much more rational approach.
You guys sound like you care! Thanks. I was thinking about your advice in my head and staring at the 15 freshly bought bananas I had bought yesterday and then I came to the conclusion. A fruitarian diet. Its clean yet energized to hopefully prevent any bad chemical reactions from happening in my bowel system.

The doctor is also a upcoming event that the parents already scheduled due to my thyroid check ups.
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I would definitely seek a doctor's advice before engaging in a fast. And most will probably advise against it if you're not already in good condition.

The symptoms you describe are pretty vague but sound similar to lactose intolerance, GERD, or similar GI issue. It's possible that some simple changes to your diet, or possibly medications might ease these symptoms.

In any case, I would definitely have that checked out before trying to treat yourself with a very questionable "cure".
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Fruitarian Diet (instead)
I'll be logging and keeping track of a fruitarian diet for an assumed period of 2 weeks.

When: February 21st to March 6th.
Why: Severe symptoms of upset stomach and queasiness. I have the worst bowel problems, gas, occasional food coming up, stomach pains, ect. Unable to sleep and feel unmotivated.
Goal: To get to know my body better. To clean out my system.
Water Beverages: Aquafina bottles, Various flavored waters.
Regular Fruit: Bananas, Granny Smith Apples (Green), Canned Fruits

I'll be logging how I feel, my activity, and other important details. Willing to answer any questions and take advice/criticism as it comes. I will continue training because of the spring season starting but I will not push my body. I will use my dad as a reference guide and feedback from immediate family as he is very experienced in fasting, disciplined eating, and nutrition in general.

Wish me luck.

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Have you tried keeping a food diary to see what exacerbates your condition? In my opinion a log can be very helpful in identifying foods that are causing health problems. It also helps when you go to see your doctor because the log can help you identify to your doctor things that are causing you problems. You will be able to provide the Dr. with some very good subjective evidence so that they can try to narrow down the problem quicker.

You know yourself better than anyone else, the thing is to let your health care team know some of what you know, and if you have it written down you it will be harder to forget the details when you see your Dr.

If you radically plan to change your diet you may be masking a problem. IMO you must find out what is causing the problem and what makes it better. I have been informed that when a baby has a suspected food allergy one food is removed from the diet about every 3 days to find out what the allergy is. Of course you are not a baby and I am not suggesting such. As I said earlier when it concerns you, you’re the foremost authority.

Best of luck.
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What was your diet like prior the the frutarian fasting?
If you ate crap food a simple switch to healthier eating (all food groups) would be beneficial.
Be careful, fruit by itself doesnt have alot of vitamins/minerals needed for healthy bodily functions let alone fat and protein to keep you going for long-
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Wow, this ought to be a good one to watch. Make sure you give your parents your login info to the forums so they can update us after you're dead.
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one thing you might want to look into instead is the "master cleanse" fast. google it and you can find all the info you need. you drink a mixture of maple syrup, lemon juice, water, and cayenne pepper for 2-14 days. it sounds kind of gross, but the stuff actually tastes really good, like spicy lemonade. the maple syrup gives you the calories you need, the lemon juice is supposed to be 'detoxifying," and so is the cayenne. you can do other stuff to help the "cleansing" part of it too, if you want - you can read more about it on other sites. i've never done it successfully for more than two or three days, but i have friends who have. they felt great, after the third or fourth day, very energetic, but could not do much exercise and lost a fair amount of muscle mass.
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Eating all that fruit is not a "fast." If you are serious about fasting and detoxifying, read "Fasting and Eating For Health" by Dr. Joel Fuhrman.
On a real fast you just have water. Drinking juice and eating fruit will prevent you from getting the true benefits of a fast.

DO NOT FAST FOR OVER 3 DAYS WITHOUT MEDICAL SUPERVISION.

You can fast for 2 or 3 weeks without harm (under supervision) and you can experience many health benefits.

I wouldn't just eat fruit for a long time. You need the combinations of vegetables, whole grains and legumes for a balanced, healthy, diet.
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Update:

I went to the doctor today and got myself checked out. I'm having to stay home and miss school for another day and see if this clears up. Thursday I'll be going back in. Basically I have a fever of 103, bowel problems, a head ache, and nausea. (sp?) I'm not sure I'll just be sticking to fruits. The doc' said I should just drink loads of water which I always do anyways and to get slowly back onto the foods. I'm now just trying to slowly be able to digest food while not throwing up. If I can steer myself back to my regular food routine I'll be happy to but not with these symptoms.

Far as my previous diet goes it is very healthy. I never eat junk food or drink anything besides water (flavored). Very balanced too.

Today I was just able to cram down a banana and some peanut butter. I couldn't even finish a whole apple. I've been really tired and just reading all day. No real hard activities except for a bike trip to the store when I was actually able to walk. Just keeping track of the Tour of California.
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A 103 deg fever is a pretty good indication of a bacterial or viral infection. In other words, you got a bug. Get plenty of rest and do what the doctor said. Forget silly things like fasting or fruit diets. Depriving your body of necessary nutrients is not a good way to maintain or improve your health.

Foods like lemon juice don't "detoxify" your body. The liver generally deals with toxins. Unless you are eating rat poison, you shouldn't have any mysterious unidentified toxins that need to be "cleansed" by some herbal potion. That's BS quackery. Just eat right and get exercise when you start feeling better.
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Far as my previous diet goes it is very healthy. I never eat junk food or drink anything besides water (flavored). Very balanced too.
Well, look, even a "healty" and balanced diet could contain things that your personal GI system is sensitive or possibly even allergic to.

If the stomach problems are chronic, you should consider keeping a journal of what you eat as well as recording your symptoms and discuss with your doctor. You might simply need to avoid certain foods, whether they're "healthy" or not. It happens . . . and it's not cured by eating a bunch of fruit and depriving your body of other needed nutrients.

Though it does sound like you have some kind of virus . . . not hard to do in a school environment.
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