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Old 03-24-06, 07:11 PM   #1
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Egg White protien powder vs Whey

Does any nutritionist or member have an idea which is a better protien powder for assisting in weight loss...Egg white protein powder or Whey Powder. I currently use EW powder as a pre-workout supplement and post ride recovery. But I have read conflicting information that Whey powder might be a better choice.

Any info or opinions welcome
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Old 03-24-06, 07:24 PM   #2
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I use whey. It dosent make me feel any different but I know its doing ny body well after I slurp one down following a hard sweatfest on the bike.
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Whats wrong with real food and why do people think that a powdered version is better?

I'm an advocate for REAL food. Whenever I see powdered this or powdered that I think its rubbish as a matter of course and 99.9% of the time I would be right.

Real food contains many co-factors, enzymes and other nutrients that make them supperior. Unfortunately, or fortunately deppending on how you look at it they spoil so you need to eat them fresh. Powdered foods are convenient for big companies to produce, ship around the country and pack on suppermarket shelves for 6 months+ but the goodness in them has been removed so as they don't spoil.

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Did anyone notice that on average one serving of whey, 22 grams of protein say and 100 calories or so, contains 18% of your daily intake of cholesterol? I found this surprising since each morning after my daily training ride I usually throw back a shake with 2 or 3 servings.
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Hmm,
egg protein is great stuff. The only reason I don't
use it is the cost. However, you said dieting. Casein digest slowly,
which might help with the diet.
http://proteinfactory.com/store/prod...products_id=35
Which reminds me, I was supposed to order some more today. Sigh.
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Whats wrong with real food and why do people think that a powdered version is better?

I'm an advocate for REAL food. Whenever I see powdered this or powdered that I think its rubbish as a matter of course and 99.9% of the time I would be right.

Real food contains many co-factors, enzymes and other nutrients that make them supperior. Unfortunately, or fortunately deppending on how you look at it they spoil so you need to eat them fresh. Powdered foods are convenient for big companies to produce, ship around the country and pack on suppermarket shelves for 6 months+ but the goodness in them has been removed so as they don't spoil.

Rant over!

Regards, Anthony
I follow what you're saying and in general I prefer to get the majority of my nutrients from regular foods.

But 'real food' often contains other things that you might not always want, especially if you are fine-tuning your ratios of carbohydrates-fats-proteins. For example, you can get "whey protein" from milk or cream, but in order to get the same amount of protein out of that as you would from whey powder, you'd be getting *a lot* of extra fat and carbohydrate.

As to egg protein vs whey . . . if the ratios/amounts of protein are the same, it's hard to say one is necessarily "better" than the other, nutrition-wise. I choose whey powder because it doesn't have much taste and mixes well into lots of different things (I usually put it in oatmeal or other hot cereal in the morning). I suppose if you are allergic to eggs then whey would be a better choice, or vice-versa. I have a kid who's allergic to both, as well as nuts, so we have to be really conscious of making sure she gets enough protein. We supplement with soy protein powder. I hate that crap, as it tastes like ass and it's really chalky and doesn't like to mix into things.
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I agree anthony on the real food rant. I have all but stopped on processed foods and am concentrating on whole natural foods/fruits for my intake. The powdwr supplements provide me with a quick easy recovery drink after circuit weight training, rides and that 200PM shake at the office when I can't fry up some egg whites.

On occasion I take pecans for an afternoon snack but that protien drink with lowfat yogurt, frozen strawberries, milk and protien powder keep satiates the hunger. For me it's a good aternative.

If I ride, walk and/or do circuit train in the morning I like to feed my body protien in measured amounts through the day to give my body something to burn other than muscle.

I do not know if I am doing the right thing that is why I queried the forum...
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Well if eggs agree with you then just "drink" a whole raw egg. Honestly I consume raw egg yolks all the time without being scared of salmonela although I do consume high quality organic/biodynamic eggs. Nothing wrong with egg yolks and even mainstream groups like the Heart Foundation have come out recently saying that egg yolks are healthy.

My problem with powdered egg whites/stuff is that any nutrition they were supposed to have has been destroyed by the refining proccess into powder form. The only form of cholesterol you need to avoid is oxidised cholesterol and guess what? The powdering proccess is what causes the oxidation of cholesterol!

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Does any nutritionist or member have an idea which is a better protien powder for assisting in weight loss...Egg white protein powder or Whey Powder. I currently use EW powder as a pre-workout supplement and post ride recovery. But I have read conflicting information that Whey powder might be a better choice.

Any info or opinions welcome
Most people will say whey is best postworkout, but probably whole food or some type of slower protein is better pre-workout.
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Well if eggs agree with you then just "drink" a whole raw egg. Honestly I consume raw egg yolks all the time without being scared of salmonela although I do consume high quality organic/biodynamic eggs. Nothing wrong with egg yolks and even mainstream groups like the Heart Foundation have come out recently saying that egg yolks are healthy.

My problem with powdered egg whites/stuff is that any nutrition they were supposed to have has been destroyed by the refining proccess into powder form. The only form of cholesterol you need to avoid is oxidised cholesterol and guess what? The powdering proccess is what causes the oxidation of cholesterol!

Regards, Anthony

ok dude. drink your raw eggs. toss the dice. someday you'll be ****ting blood. have fun with that.


nothing wrong with either type whey or egg. it is powder yes but it is still food too.

there is a metabolic reaction to drinking concentrated protein powers and especially
the protein hit before bedtime which is important for endurance athletes without
extra food matter to digest. it gets in the system fast and uses less blood to digest, leaving
more blood free to carry the amino acids to the muscle, brain, and nerves


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Raw egg whites contain a protein that is an antinutrient to biotin. Cook your eggs.. even then whey is still better IMO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotin
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Did anyone notice that on average one serving of whey, 22 grams of protein say and 100 calories or so, contains 18% of your daily intake of cholesterol? I found this surprising since each morning after my daily training ride I usually throw back a shake with 2 or 3 servings.

That is your brand of whey powder.... Mine has 46 grams per serving of Protein. Which has zero cholesterol, 200 cal. If I was to take Anthony's advice I would have to eat 7.5 eggs to match protein, which would put total cal. over 500!! plus all the fat and extra crap that comes along. Maybe it is marketing but I have always used whey. And everyone I know uses whey.
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