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Old 03-30-06, 08:37 PM   #1
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Anyone Using FRSplus ?

I have seen their antioxident energy drink reviewed in Bicycle Mag positively. Anyone using this stuff have any thoughts on it? Thanks.

http://frsplus.com/products/
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Old 03-30-06, 09:07 PM   #2
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If Buycycling magazine gives it a positive review, it must be good stuff.

Look at the ingredients. It's basically just sugar and fruit juice concentrate with some caffeine, a few vitamins, and some "dietary miracle supplements" added.
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If you want antioxidants, try some hot green tea.

My personal preference is hot Earl Gray, but that's just me. (and NO...i'm NOT English)
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i am with you on the green tea. have a hot cup every morning at work. i like Salada Green Tea. i like the green tea, but it doesn't provide any energy boost like this product advertises. i signed up for their free sample and had to pay $5.95 for shipping only. it ships UPS ground. i am just looking for a little afternoon pick me up and will let you all know. later.
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There's no evidence that antioxidant supplements of any kind have any affect. The only test I'm aware off is where they tried some beta keratin supplements and they had to terminate the experiment. Apparently, it was killing some smokers in the test population. They thought the supplement would reduce the negative effects of smoking.

If you are into antioxidants, eat dark colored fruit (dark blue/red) such as blue berries, dark cherries, strawberries plus dark green veggies. Green tea, brown tea and coffee are good too. Tea and coffee both have antioxidents, they are just different kinds.

Antioxidants appear beneficial. It has hasn't been quantified yet how beneficial they are concerning health, fitness or lifespan.

Nutrition is somewhat more complicated than getting on board the latest stuff in the media. It's best to learn the subject. Chris Carmichael's Food for fitness is an excellent starting point and he does cover antioxidants. The USDA nutrition guideline is another (free download), but it's not geared for athletes. It's also boring reading.

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I have used frsplus in 2-3 race situations. In each race I went into serious attacks with absolutely minimal negative impact, recovered quite well after the attacks and had zero fatigue or soreness after the race. I should add that I hydrate with a 300 calorie drink/hour of racing. This helps keep energy up, but does little in the way of preventing soreness or stiffness after the race/workout.

In the first race where I used frsplus (only before the race) did an attack for about 2.5 miles with several laps to go just to see if I could get away (1 man had already broken away and ultimately took 1st place). There is no doubt in my mind that this breakaway would have been very debilitating later in the race without frsplus. The next morning the same group of racers did a 33 minute criterium. I used frsplus before this race also and suffered no noticeable consequences due to the prior day's race.

To Al.canoe, I would say that there is a lot of scientific evidence with respect to the damage of free radicals and the benefits of anti-oxidants to counter act that damage. Furthermore, the following was reported from a double blind study at Pepperdine University found:

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"Exercise performance changes of 1-4% are significant and usually mean the difference between winning and losing. FRS Plus yielded a 3.1% improvement, which is impressive, especially in highly trained elite athletes," observes Holden S.H. MacRae, PhD, Principal Investigator and Professor of Sports Medicine at Pepperdine University.
ref: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...13/ai_n6234173

There is more important background information on this topic at the above link.

One of my thoughts on frsplus is that it might be cheaper to just buy your own vitamin supplements and green tea, but getting sufficient quercetin before workouts from apples, grapes, onions, etc without the attendant digestive bulk could be problematic.

I suppose that to a serious athlete, $3.25 per day (for 2 servings) might be considered well worth the money for consumption over, say, 100-200 days per year. That is not much when compared to the costs of outfitting a high quality bike, plus cloths, race entrance fees, etc.
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I've been trying out this stuff made by some local kids: Catalyst. Interesting idea to combine an energy-drink with alcohol...
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Hi,
I got a bottle of FRS when they were giving it away. IMHO, it works, but ain't worth the money. You can get quercitin in pill form, and wash it down with some coffee or tea. If you aren't taking a multivitamin, then you should. I reccomend iron-free natural multivitamins. Ignore the people who say they are a waste. I'm over 50 and the people who have been saying that to me look ten years older than I do.

What i do think is worth spending a few bucks on is a good sports drink. But I'm just a tourista and I grab my drinks out of convenience stores. Ask some racers what they like. The one racer I know uses Endurox. I used to use Cytomax. But it
can go really stale and I wasn't using it enough to justify the $$. I tend to ride for 3-5 hours and something straight out of a fridge tastes better even if it is low tech or no tech.

Of course.... my favorite midride drink is a Starbucks Frappacino
http://www.starbucks.com/grocery/frappuccino.asp
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