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Old 07-06-06, 08:42 AM   #1
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Had it up to HERE with dieting!

OK, I'm done dieting.

I am overweight and flirting with diabetes and frankly, these diets have done nothing for me but make me neurotic and focused on food. I have been exercising for about a year and I'm switching from the gym to cycling. I'm going OFF diets but I'm going to completely ditch white sugar (bad for me--I'm not a zealot about YOUR sugar but it just does nasty things to me) and avoiding white flour (which in large amounts has the same effect as sugar on my metabolism.)

Anybody else in this boat? I've done 'em all--Atkins (which I liked, by the way), Weight Watchers, the liquid diet, etc. I just don't want the whole dieting deprivation thing.

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I think the best "diet" is portion control. However, in my honest opinion I don't think any "diet" works long term. I think you have to make a permanent change along with exercise. Anyone can lose weight for a month or two, keeping it off involves making life changes.

If you are willing to do that along with cycling I am sure that you will be succesful. I wish you the best of luck and hope that in the next year you have reached all of your goals.

*btw, this is coming from someone that lost 50 pounds way too fast but made permanent changes and kept it off for over a year now.
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i think dieting is harder for most people than just straight up exercise. which is skewed because people seem to put the most focus on dieting and counting calories, carbs, etc.
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I don't get the "diet" stuff. You just need to eat healthy and control your portions. South Beach, Adkins, whatever you call it are not long term solutions. Change your eating habits to eat healthy food and control your portions, and ride your bike and you will drop weight.

Everyone ask me what diet I have been on as I have dropped 50 lbs since January. I am not on a diet. To say I was on a diet would be to presume that what I ate before was "Normal and Healthy." It was not. I eat lean meats, veggies, fruits, and low fat foods along with controlling my portions. Now I rarely top 3000 calories a day where as before I likely topped 5000 on a daily basis.

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You have to change your eating habits. Portion control is the best way to do this. Most people would be amazed at the amount of calories that they eat in a given day. It all adds up. I have been a type 1 Diabetic for 32 years and am in good control with no complications. Don't kid yourself on "flirting" with diabetes. You either have it or you don't. It is like flirting with being pregnant. You can have type 2 and not take any meds for it but you still have it and your blood sugar will elivate if you eat wrong. You are correct on the sugar and white flour. This will spike your blood sugar. I try to stay away from these unless my BS is way down. Then I might "treat" myself to something with this in it. I have had to control my portion size for most of my life and it is pretty easy now. You just have to discipline yourself. Good luck and keep at it. Your life depends on it.
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I stopped dieting when I got the bike. Lost 50#s while on the diet but I got tired of it too.

Now I just watch my portions and don't eat alot of garbage. I continued to lose another 10#s. Eating slowly helps as does increasing fiber intake.
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I think the best "diet" is portion control. However, in my honest opinion I don't think any "diet" works long term. I think you have to make a permanent change along with exercise. Anyone can lose weight for a month or two, keeping it off involves making life changes.

If you are willing to do that along with cycling I am sure that you will be succesful. I wish you the best of luck and hope that in the next year you have reached all of your goals.

*btw, this is coming from someone that lost 50 pounds way too fast but made permanent changes and kept it off for over a year now.

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"where as before I likely topped 5000 on a daily basis" -aham23.

and Im pretty sure that it was 5000 junk calories too aham, youve done awesome!

I have not gained any weight. Still eating correct (though I splurged a bit on vacation) I got right back on track afterwards, I am exactly at my goal for June 15th 06. Gonne keep it there (or less) too.
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"where as before I likely topped 5000 on a daily basis" -aham23.

and Im pretty sure that it was 5000 junk calories too aham, youve done awesome!

I have not gained any weight. Still eating correct (though I splurged a bit on vacation) I got right back on track afterwards, I am exactly at my goal for June 15th 06. Gonne keep it there (or less) too.

I have definitely splurged this summer. First it was a Florida Vaca and the Waffle House, next 4th of July barbecue, and next it will be a weekend trip to Wisconsin. However, I am riding, running, and more active now then I have been in ten years.

Putting in the work for the past 6 months has allowed me these splurges. It was tough in the begining, dropping all the fast food and eating out. I think I had to suffer in the begining to get things started. Later.
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I've gone from 220 to 175 in a year without watching what I eat at all. In fact, my metabolism is now on full alert and I eat far more than I did when I was fat.

The secret? Ride 4-5 hours every day.

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I have always believed in the idea that "if you eat well, you don't need to diet". That means a lot of things, including:
- sensible portions
- good mix of proteins, carbs, fat
- moderate "rewards" (alcohol, candies, etc.)

Those are not all necessarily easy to do, but the discipline involved to me is a lot lower than deprivation-based diets. If you can satiate your desires a little bit, you're less tempted to over-do it and regret it. And of course plenty of exercise (mental as well as physical) makes a good buffer.
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Old 07-06-06, 04:20 PM   #12
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I'm with you. I quit dieting a year ago and so far I've lost 40 pounds. I am diabetic also, but I don't need meds when I exercise and eat well. Two things I found to be helpful:
  1. Reading a book called The Portion Teller helped me to control the amount of food I eat, while still enjoying sweets and such in strict moderation.
  2. Keeping a journal of my food intake, exercise and emotional factors helped me to focus and monitor my efforts.
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Oh yeah, +1 on the journal...the simple act of having to "account" for everything going in has an amazing effect on your ability to moderate, it seems
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Sounds like a good plan. You might consider "south beach" - though it has "diet" in the title, the phase 3 part doesn't limit what foods you eat. It's more of a "these foods are more healthy".

My advice is to limit the processed food. I try to avoid as much refined food as possible.

Good luck. I'm convinced that "eat healthy and exercise" is a much better prescription to weight loss than "diet".
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Thank you to all of you. I find that I have very little trouble controlling portions when I cut out the crap food! I'm very inspired by all of your stories and your progress--and I feel that it's time to quit hassling with weight to look better and concentrate on what it's doing to my body.

As to the diabetes, Gordonm--I'm not diabetic yet, I fall into the "prediabetic" range on my blood tests. However, there is a history of diabetes in my family. My dad controls his with exercise and careful eating and I see that his health improved when he quit messing around and realized he needed to make changes. I want to learn from him rather than passively waiting for the train to hit me in the tunnel.

I'm really just starting to ride but I have a goal: 35 mile ride through Ocala, which is beautiful horse country, coming up on October 29 (for those of you planning a FL vacation, October is THE month--cooler, less humid, no crowds, prices are down and availability for hotels is up.)

Now...must. make. another. four. hours. in. the. day. to. ride...

Thanks again! You guys are great!!

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Hi,
get some fiber pills that have natural fiber. Pectin is the gentlest, oat bran is
perhaps the most effective. Build up slowly, but take 2 or 3 with each meal; uless it's a high fiber meal to begin with.

Florida, hmm, is there an exercise class you can take in the summer?
The ideal is to find some way to get an hour for exercise a few times a week.
Getting up an hour earlier would put you in the cool part of your day, personally,
I find it the best time to exercise. You can swap intensity for time, but not every time.
A half hour as hard as you can go qualifies as exercise
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That sounds like a very good goal. You shouldn't have any problems reaching it. Not only is it a good goal it sounds like a beautiful ride.

Good luck with everything and please keep us updated. This forum is a great place to get help reaching your goals. A lot of us have been in your shoes so have a pretty good idea what it is that you are going through.
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get some fiber pills that have natural fiber. Pectin is the gentlest, oat bran is
perhaps the most effective. Build up slowly, but take 2 or 3 with each meal; uless it's a high fiber meal to begin with.
+1 on more fiber, though I think it's better to get it naturally when possible.
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I quit dieting when I was about 17 years old. Oh ... I think I tried to diet a couple times since then, but when I diet, I gain weight, so what's the point of that!!

Instead, I exercise ..... lots!!

Right now the daily recommended amount of exercise is 60 minutes a day to MAINTAIN a basic level of fitness, and if you've got any weight to lose the recommendation is 90 minutes a day.

I dropped from 170 lbs down to 120 lbs eating whatever I wanted to eat ... and exercising a lot. I've fluctuated a bit since then ... I'll gain a bit of weight in the winter when I don't get as much exercise ... but then I'll lose it again in the summer. Just today I stepped on the scale and discovered that I had lost 14 lbs since the end of March.

Now about the types of exercise. If you can get on the bicycle for an hour or two a day 5-6 days a week, with longer rides now and then, that would be great. But in addition to that, include exercise in your daily life.

-- park at the opposite end of the parking lot to the store and walk from there. I hardly ever park right next to the store doors, and the great thing about parking 500 metres away from the store you're heading too is that you'll have your choice of parking spot because everyone else is fighting for the closer spots.

-- park as far away from work as you reasonably can. If you can commute to work by bicycle or by walking, that would work well, or on days where that is not possible, park a couple blocks away. When I was in University over the past winter, I parked about 1.5 kms away from the college ... and now I park almost a kilometer away from the place where I work when I drive.

-- take the stairs rather than the elevator.

-- walk or cycle with your kids to the parks in your neighborhood ... and then run around and play with them there.

-- at work, get up and walk around whenever possible. Walk around the block at lunch, walk around the office on your coffee breaks.

Basically ... whenever you have the opportunity to move ... move!!
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Yeah, I've tried all the fad diets too, and they're just that, fads that will fade. The only way I've managed to make long-term weight-loss was to watch how much I ate. It doesn't matter really what I ate, I could eat ice-cream, pizza, fast-food, veggies, pasta, steaks, etc. The only constant has been that as long as I ate fewer calories than I burned off, I continued to lose weight. By the end of this year, I will have reached my goal of losing 100lbs. It's taken years, there's no short-cuts or easy fixes or instant pills you can take. By continually burning off 500 cal/day more than I ate, I was able to lose 1 lb/week consistently. Doesn't matter what I ate, if I pigged out a party and ate 3000 calories of chips, dips, pizza, beer, shrimp, guacamole, etc, I would just go out the next day and ride off 3500 calories. If I ate a more reasonable amount of 2000 cal/day, then I'd just ride off enough to burn a total of 2500 calories.

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Also cut out sodas if you drink any. Eat smaller portions. Instead of having seconds of mash potatoes with tons of gravy try a salad. Instead of having big breakfast, big lunch, try having smaller breakfast, lunch dinner, and maybe snack on something healthy like apples, bannanas, salad, etc in between. Exercise.
I don't think diets work. People drastically reduce their food consumption, metabolism decreases. They loose weight, start eating normal again so their food consumption is now the same (if not higher) as before the diet, but metabolism is lower. Which results in even bigger weight gain.
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Diets are useless!!!

All one needs to do is eat properly, and watch your total daily calorie intake.

Now go ride your bike.
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Try SparkPeople.com, or org, or net. I'm not 100% sure but I know it's Spark People. They have an online meal plan guide/program that inputs your height and weight and calculates your calorie intake, what it should be. They suggest meals for the day as well as snacks. I have been doing it for about 3 wks now and have noticed a vast improvement in feeling energized. The food is normal food, not diety foods, and it doesn't cost a thing. They even come up with weekly grocery lists for you to take to the store. At the end of every day you go online and enter your calories, what you ate and it calculates them for you. If it seems like I kind of half know what I am talking about its because all I do is eat the food and my girlfriend keeps track of the rest. You should try it, very structured and easy, good luck!!!
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45 pounds lost since feb, no diet, in fact I eat more than I used too, keep my body fueled. I just made a few small changes. no pepsi, potato chips, rice, potatos etc. I even still have fast food a couple times a week.

Like everyone else has said, eat healthy, dont just not eat. Plus, working hard on those 100+ miles a week on the bike. These are no leisurly jaunts down the bike path. I always have targeted cadence, Heart rate, sprints, climbs, gears goals etc in my training.
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I just cut out crud like unneeded carbs, all soda, all alcohol, do low fat this or that here and there. I love meats and veggies, and I try to cook with various spices and what not to liven things up. I eat quite a bit actually. Have lost 51 lbs since January. Changed my lifestyle rather than do a diet, and it worked wonders. I have wanted nothing to do with the various fad diets.. just wanted to make changes that I can stick with in the long run. I have wound up with so much energy, which I direct at my biking. Really loving life this summer!
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