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Old 07-29-06, 05:39 PM   #1
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Bowflex

Hey guys...I'm wondering who all here has one of these fine machines...and who really uses them for conditioning/strenght training in addition to cycling.

I wonder this because I have an Ultimate 2. We just moved, and I discovered that our new place has too small of doors to fit it through...no big sliders. I'm weighing my options of either A) taking it apart, and having to put it back together because it is very useful, or B) sell it in one piece and take the money to my local cycle shop to buy a road bike.

Which would you all do? This thing was very hard to put together, and is even harder to take apart. I lost 15lbs in the assembly workout last year!
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Old 07-29-06, 06:08 PM   #2
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Your in a cycling forum asking if one should spend cash on a bike or an exercise machine ?
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Old 07-29-06, 06:09 PM   #3
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It all depends on how often you use it. I would rather have a road bike than a bowflex. All you really need is a good dumbbell set and an imagination. I can't imagine you getting enough money for the bowflex to buy a road bike however.
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Your in a cycling forum asking if one should spend cash on a bike or an exercise machine ?
No, I'm in a cycling forum asking if I should sell the bowflex and use the money to buy a road bike. Or if I should have both.
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Old 07-29-06, 06:14 PM   #5
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It all depends on how often you use it. I would rather have a road bike than a bowflex. All you really need is a good dumbbell set and an imagination. I can't imagine you getting enough money for the bowflex to buy a road bike however.
Yeah, probably not...but it would go along ways. I think I could probably cash out around 1500 on the bowflex...almost a grand less than new...
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OH...I have a Life Fitness R7i I will probably get rid of too...maybe that will buy a nice set of wheels, helmet, and computer for the bike!
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To be honest I think the two go together. I lift weights and cycle.

Cycling is something I really enjoy. It is fun, did wonders for my health (I have the blood work to prove it). It is the aerobic component of my regime. I like it better than the alternative of running and swimming.

Lift weights (or bowflex) completely changed the way I look. It took me from 130 pounds to 170 pounds (I’m 5’11”). Cycling leaned me out too much. The weights put on a lot o lean body mass and increased my strength.

Add some stretching (the cheapest) and your set.
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Really depends on what muscles you want to exercise and how you want to look. Cycling is great for improving aerobic capacity, and leg strength. It doesn't do anything for upper body strength. I think the jury is till out on weight lifting to boost legs strength. All depends on how much time you have to train, results you want etc. I think one book I read (well I read parts of it that were relevant), recommended doing it in the off season.
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You need both strength training and aerobics, so you "need" both a bike and at least some free-weights. You could buy free-weights and a bike. Matter of fact, cycling promotes loss of bone material because you're sitting so much. Cyclists and especially road cyclists, need weight training probably more than most athletes.

Though we have a weight machine, I try to do a portion of my weight training with free-weights as I'm not really interested in isolating muscle groups as much as maintaining core strength for heavy lifting and canoe paddling.

My multi-station weight machine is also a bear to disassemble/assemble and we are also planning to move. I'm going to give it to my son (who'll have to do the work) and buy that new Bowflex which uses springs instead of bows (Ultimate 2?). It simulates real weights far better. I had the bow-type years ago, but didn't care for it because it's effect was too different from real-world weight lifting.

On Stretching, I just insure that I weight train over my full range of motion (and no further) and I rarely need to stretch. I've not stretched over my 40 years of rather strenuous exercise and activities like carrying 120 lb loads over two mile portages. To me it's a waste of time that I could be doing something else that's proven to be beneficial. Stretching to excess, can also elongate muscles/tendons where your joints are not held together well enough and become prone to injury. From what I've read, there's no research to show the benefits of stretching, but if it works for you, that's good enough.

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Cool guys, thanks. I'm keeping it! I saw resale value on craig's as well as eBay and figured it wasn't worth selling. I had a couple military guys in my neighborhood help me bring it in after I took 1/2 of it apart. Back together, and used it for the 1st time last night!

Thanks all....

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You need both strength training and aerobics, so you "need" both a bike and at least some free-weights. You could buy free-weights and a bike. Matter of fact, cycling promotes loss of bone material because you're sitting so much. Cyclists and especially road cyclists, need weight training probably more than most athletes.

Though we have a weight machine, I try to do a portion of my weight training with free-weights as I'm not really interested in isolating muscle groups as much as maintaining core strength for heavy lifting and canoe paddling.

My multi-station weight machine is also a bear to disassemble/assemble and we are also planning to move. I'm going to give it to my son (who'll have to do the work) and buy that new Bowflex which uses springs instead of bows (Ultimate 2?). It simulates real weights far better. I had the bow-type years ago, but didn't care for it because it's effect was too different from real-world weight lifting.

On Stretching, I just insure that I weight train over my full range of motion (and no further) and I rarely need to stretch. I've not stretched over my 40 years of rather strenuous exercise and activities like carrying 120 lb loads over two mile portages. To me it's a waste of time that I could be doing something else that's proven to be beneficial. Stretching to excess, can also elongate muscles/tendons where your joints are not held together well enough and become prone to injury. From what I've read, there's no research to show the benefits of stretching, but if it works for you, that's good enough.

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Flexibility in exercise is a good thing man...more power to you.

Not the Ultimate 2, as I have that...it is bows. I believe you are thinking of this http://www.bowflexrevolution.com/glo...=1154352415893
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From what I've read, there's no research to show the benefits of stretching, but if it works for you, that's good enough.
It helps to prevent injuries. For example, if you are going to do this, yet are not flexible enough, guess what happens?

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It helps to prevent injuries. For example, if you are going to do this, yet are not flexible enough, guess what happens?


You must be assuming that to do "that", you have to stretch. I just did it. No problem. Nothing happened.

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