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Old 08-01-06, 01:33 PM   #1
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I just started using fitday. Does anyone else have so many problems trying to find the foods on there? Has anyone else noticed that they expect you should burn 3000 calories a day before you even exercise? Can someone advise me on this thing?
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Old 08-01-06, 01:39 PM   #2
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I've used it in the past, but I found the same thing that you did...it's really hard to find the foods that I eat in there database. And it did seem surprising that I could consume 3000 calories without gaining a pound...but who knows?

I've decided to be less rigid with my health. I just eat healthy foods most of the time, and get as much exercise as I can. Whatever happens to my body...I'm okay with.
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The calories you burn everyday depend upon your weight and height. Fitday will take that and your lifestyle pattern into consideration when calculating how many calories you're burning each day.

As for availability of foods on Fitday, yes thats a problem. I try to include foods that are as close to what I have eaten as possible. But you can also create custom foods by entering information from the nutrition facts label from any food that you cannot find in there. Now if you've a recipe thats going to be hard.
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I used a similar program in a college level PE class (damn liberal arts schools) and had the same issue (it said for my height and weight, 3k calories was a maintenance diet) and most of what I ate at the time wasn't in the db.
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Old 08-01-06, 05:35 PM   #5
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Has anyone found a better way to track this?? (for free ) I was astounded to see how many calories I was ingesting after beer, pizza, wings, etc... You would have thought I would have gained more weight. Anyhow, I've got about 5.5 months until a solid vacation/wedding in Mexico and it is time to lose this extra 25 lbs.

Any inspiration or insight would help. Thanks...
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Fitday works great once you get a system down. First, you need to over estimate your lifestyle. If you work in an office then use "Sedentary" or seated all day. Doesn't matter if you are up and down all day. Secondly, you have to enter your sleeping as an activity which will reduce your BMR or calories burnt just being you. Finally, on the foods I entered most of the stuff I eat/ate manually using the food lables from the stuff.

Fitday help me obsessively track my caloirie intake and activities and I lost 53 lbs in Six months. Try CaloriesPerHour.com if you want to verify your BMR, BMI, and activies against Fitday. Good luck.
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I've been using it a few years and have found FitDay to be a really Great tool BUT it is time consuming at first.
I created custom foods, and even full meals with it, using the nutrition labels as well as the fitday database.

Be mindful that it's software based on generalizations. Every-body is different. A heartrate monitor is helpful for a little more accuracy with activities, height, weight etc...

Once getting all the stuff into your own custom stuff (right down to the morning coffee), it gets faster and easier.
I actually got the software but I’ve found I prefer accessing it using any pc.
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calorieking.com is a good website to use with FitDay. It has a lot of fast food and junk food, and it gives you a nutrition label similar to the one you fill out at fitday.com when you're creating a custom food.

Although FitDay probably isn't that accurate, I have learned a lot about my eating habits. There are a lot of foods that I didn't realize were as unhealthy as they are. I've also started paying attention to portion sizes, which was my biggest problem before. But one of my favorite features is the pie chart that keeps track of the percentage of carbohydrates, proteins, and fat in your diet. I was eating WAY too many carbohydrates before, and I think I was getting a lot of headaches because of that.

The only problem I have had with watching what I eat so closely is that it has become extremely obsessive and I spend way too much time thinking about food and weight loss.
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Fitday shows high.
I had to use sedentary job and add 8 hours sleep a day in order to get my caloric burn a day correct.
Most foods I entered myself, but after a month, most stuff I eat was in so it was easy.
You also get real good at finding foods that are close, as long as the calories are similar
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Indeed you do need to enter sleep, since it assumes non-activity is lifestyle. It would probably also be mroe accurate if you entered all the time spent sitting on the couch. It's not precise, but if you have mom's chocolate cake just find something close. That small piece is costing you 300 calories regardless, more if it's a huge piece. If you're honest it will certainly cut down portion sizes because you need to enter everything in. Also you can use dietfacts.com to add foods right to fitday.com.
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Yeah, it is a guideline or "estimate" at best, but a very useful one. Their are tons of websites that can estimate your Basal Level or calories you burn just being you. Once I added in for sleep and sedintary job fitday was in line with the others. Plus, there are tons of websites that provide calorie info for all kinds of food. It worked for me and it can work for you. Later.
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It is my understanding that 1200 calories per day is the minimum amount of calories you must eat to prevent your body from going to starvation mode. If I eat, say, 2000 calories and burn 1000 through exercise will my metabolism slow down? Is "starvation mode" triggered when the body thinks it isn't getting food frequently enough?
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I LOVE FITDAY.COM! i found it through this community, and i'm so glad i did. i enter in my own information when the food doesn't show in the database. it takes time, but i decided that if a food isnt worth spending a minute to type in, then it isn't worth eating. plus if i eat it once, i'm likely to eat it again (at least until i run out of it), so the next time i won't have to type anything at all, except the quantity.

i've lost a couple pounds with it since i started using it a couple weeks ago, but even more than that, fitday is valuable to me because it helps me see what i'm eating, where using paper food journals (and adding it all up at the END of the day) failed. since it does the carbohydrate/fat/protein/alcohol percentages automatically, i can see what i'm missing, and even correct for it in the same day, without spending time calculating! i am SO GLAD someone linked to that site. i think about food differently now--this was the missing link for me. i needed someone to spell it out

i've gone out to eat and had things that i didn't know the info for, and found it on the internet. if you can't find it then it can be pretty close if you find something similar and just plug in those numbers. i think if you get super-specific with it, it might be more stress than it's worth.

i was shocked by the calorie counts, too. after reading this thread, i added 9 hours of sleep to today's activity list (which day should i add it to, do you think, if i sleep a different number of hours than usual?) and it only went down 200-some calories. i have my activity listed as "sedentary (bed-bound)" so it thinks i am in bed all day anyway, except when i get up to bike now it says i've burned 3296 (2 hours of cycling). is this humanly possible?! i've read that women's bodies are really efficient at holding on to weight, and conserving energy even through hardcore exertion. i don't know how to figure out what the right number of calories is to eat each day, because i want to lose weight but NOT hurt myself riding 1-2 hours each day. if i eat 1800 calories a day is that too little food?

anyway, back on topic i think if you figure out a way to use fitday that fits into your life, it can be a really neat tool.
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It is my understanding that 1200 calories per day is the minimum amount of calories you must eat to prevent your body from going to starvation mode. If I eat, say, 2000 calories and burn 1000 through exercise will my metabolism slow down? Is "starvation mode" triggered when the body thinks it isn't getting food frequently enough?
The best way to keep metabolism going and lose weight is if you eat X-500 calories a day, where X is the number of calories you burn. Try to eat as many meals as possible. Ideally, it would probably be best if you ate a tiny meal every 15 minutes or less. But that's not practical. Personally an hour rarely goes by in the day without my eating something. If you eat 2000 but burn 1000, you're calorie deficit is probably going to be too high, and that may possibly lead your body to go into a sort of starvation mode. You may also find yourself bloated...possibly - I emphasize possibly because everyone is different.
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since it does the carbohydrate/fat/protein/alcohol percentages automatically, i can see what i'm missing, and even correct for it in the same day, without spending time calculating!
Absolutely. If you're trying to maintain a certain ratio of f/c/p, it allows you to adjust on the fly. Same with vitamins/minerals. Everything is real time if you want it to be.

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i was shocked by the calorie counts, too. after reading this thread, i added 9 hours of sleep to today's activity list (which day should i add it to, do you think, if i sleep a different number of hours than usual?)
I always put it in the day I just woke up. For instance, I added 7.5 hours of sleep to today's activities. It really doesn't matter so long as you're consistent.

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and it only went down 200-some calories. i have my activity listed as "sedentary (bed-bound)" so it thinks i am in bed all day anyway, except when i get up to bike now it says i've burned 3296 (2 hours of cycling). is this humanly possible?!
It is. 2 hous of biking burns a lot of calories. But unless you really are bed bound, why would you set it up that way? You want to be as accurate as possible, IMO.

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i've read that women's bodies are really efficient at holding on to weight, and conserving energy even through hardcore exertion. i don't know how to figure out what the right number of calories is to eat each day, because i want to lose weight but NOT hurt myself riding 1-2 hours each day. if i eat 1800 calories a day is that too little food?
1800 is far too little if you're burning 3200. See my other post about possibly going into starvation mode. You want to approach it with the slow & steady attitude, not the crash and burn approach, which is IMO impossible to maintain and unhealthy.

Best of luck!
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Fitday works great once you get a system down


I lost 35 pounds by watching my diet and riding and fitday. I reached my goal in June and still use it to this day.

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thank you norm z! i don't want to do crash & burn, either. i've been eating about 2000 or 2100 calories because i didn't want to eat too little, but i was worried that i was actually only burning that much, so i'd just maintain my weight. yay, more food! thanks for the clarification

oh and i put "bed-bound" because the calories it said i burned seemed waaaay too high, and i do a lot of sitting. hehe.
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