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    Soy vs. Regular milk

    not much more to add.. im looking for benefits of soy vs regular milk, if any? i drink skim milk usually but have tried soy lately and its not to bad. also theres a "light soy chocolate milk" that tastes awesome.


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    I like Vitasoy light chocolate ok but I found I wasn't go though it fast enough before it would go bad. I end up just always using vanilla Vitasoy 'Complete' as a base for everything and adding flavoring as desired. One thing I like about soy milk is that you can buy a bunch of the shelf stable stuff and not have to keep a lot of milk in the fridge; just pop them in as needed...

    Oh yeah I should add that my wife like Hood 'Carb Countdown' chocolate milk. I think they may have renamed it to 'Calorie Countdown'. Anyway, less calories & carbs than regular or light soy chocolate, but thicker and creamier. I think it tastes pretty good but I usually just let her have it to herself.

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    Define 'regular'. Whole milk? 2%? Skim? The disadvantage of whole milk is probably obvious - twice as much fat. Another benefit I see is that you don't risk ingesting hormones that were pumped into the cow to increase production way above normal.

    Lowers cholesterol and heart disease risk: http://www.healthcastle.com/benefitsofsoy_heart.shtml

    Other misc. soy benefits: http://www.soyinfo.com/benefits.shtml

    Hope this doesn't seem too preachy. It's my first post here because I'm such a bike noob that I rarely get into a thread I can contribute to.

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    I buy skim milk and put soy
    or preferrably WHEY protein powder
    in it. See the website at:
    http://www.wheyoflife.org
    for details on the many, many
    health benefits of whey protein
    powder.

    Soy milk is too expensive for
    my taste and doesn't have
    enough amino acid content.
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    Yea, non-animal sources of protien - like soy - usually have less complete amino profiles.

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    Define 'regular'. Whole milk? 2%? Skim? The disadvantage of whole milk is probably obvious - twice as much fat. Another benefit I see is that you don't risk ingesting hormones that were pumped into the cow to increase production way above normal.
    Soy milk has just as much fat as whole milk unless you get the lower fat versions which seem to have just come out.

    Generally speaking cows may be given oxytocin to help them "let down" the milk.

    But soy isn't innocent either. It has phytoestrogens which may have an effect on men. Ever notice all of those Soy Menopause products geared to women with hot flashes? Yup, its the phytoestrogens in soy that help with hot flashes the same way Premarin (conjugated estrogen) helps with hot flashes.
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    The soy milk in my fridge has 4g of fat (0g trans) per 8 fl. oz., and it isn't marked as a low-fat version.

    According to http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/, whole milk has 7.93g of fat per 8 fl. oz.

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    The right light chocolate soy milk is like liquid crack. Good stuff.
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    I have to have both. Normal milk, and soy chocolate milk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowandsteady
    Soy milk has just as much fat as whole milk unless you get the lower fat versions which seem to have just come out.

    Generally speaking cows may be given oxytocin to help them "let down" the milk.

    But soy isn't innocent either. It has phytoestrogens which may have an effect on men. Ever notice all of those Soy Menopause products geared to women with hot flashes? Yup, its the phytoestrogens in soy that help with hot flashes the same way Premarin (conjugated estrogen) helps with hot flashes.
    I agree. I have never been wild about soy as a protein source. If you want regular milk and avoid the additives, try organic milk. Yes, it is more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedgoudy

    Soy milk is too expensive for
    my taste .

    Where have you been shopping? I've NEVER paid more for soy then regular. Normally I pay 1.09 for a quart of the non refridgerated fortified kind versus 1.99 for a quart of whole milk.

    +1 on anything organic
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    I love soy milk and rice milk. Regular milk makes me phlematic.
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    Sigh,
    you beat the tar out of BS and old wive's tales and 5 minutes later
    the same foolishness is back.

    Soy milk is fine, just beware most have lots of added sugar. I buy an unsweetened variety; but they sneak a little sugar into that as well.
    Here is an analysis
    http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c218l.html
    Americans get plenty of protein, so the fact that this protein is
    not quite perfect is basically irrelevant. In any case you can easily
    up the protein rating by having a grain product like cereal or bread with the milk.



    Milk is also good, if fatty. I usually get a protein fortified skim milk.
    http://www.hphood.com/products/prodDetail.aspx?id=357
    You prob have something like this available.

    In general, cyclists don't need to worry about protein. You should take advantage of the glycogen window that happens for 20 minutes after you stop
    exercising; but other than that it's not a big deal. Just drink what you like.

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    If you're concerned about the levels of oil or sugar added to soymilk, you could always make your own:

    http://www.soymilkmaker.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiotBoi
    Where have you been shopping? I've NEVER paid more for soy then regular. Normally I pay 1.09 for a quart of the non refridgerated fortified kind versus 1.99 for a quart of whole milk.

    +1 on anything organic
    Yes, but I pay only $3.49 for 2 GALLONS of skim milk.
    Trader Joes, the best price I can get on Soy, sells it
    for $1.99 a quart, or they used to a couple of years ago.

    I live in Southern California, I don't know if it is more
    expensive here or not.
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    drink water, not milk or soy

    and eat cheese

    it is the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedgoudy
    Yes, but I pay only $3.49 for 2 GALLONS of skim milk.
    Trader Joes, the best price I can get on Soy, sells it
    for $1.99 a quart, or they used to a couple of years ago.

    I live in Southern California, I don't know if it is more
    expensive here or not.

    I make mine at home with the machine that marks has posted. It cost 5 cents for the beans for 1-1/2 quarts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickf829
    not much more to add.. im looking for benefits of soy vs regular milk, if any? i drink skim milk usually but have tried soy lately and its not to bad. also theres a "light soy chocolate milk" that tastes awesome.


    any input?
    I've had to soy vs regular arguement with people before. Here is what I know

    Soy milk is going to tend to have more fat calories
    soy itself has qualities that reduce your chances of getting cancer
    soy milk does not contain natural calcium, it is fortified with calcium. Also, something in the soy blocks some calcium from being absorbed, so you're getting much less calcium.
    Soy in excess [doubt you'll ever drink THAT much] will cause kidney failure
    Protein content between soy milk and regular milk is about the same
    Soy milk is more expensive

    Drink whatever you like. If you're lactose intolerant, then the choice is obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedgoudy
    I live in Southern California, I don't know if it is more
    expensive here or not.
    Its $12 for 12 boxed quarts of Kirkland brand soy milk at Costco.
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    Just get soybeans from the Asian grocer. Soak overnight, boil, puree in blender, and strain.

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    Anyone drink rice milk? I thinkit tastes good but I'm not sure how it stacks up against soy or regualr milk in terms of nutrition.

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    Rice milk has the same nutritional value as rice. Anything else is added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bac
    There's no such thing as soy milk. It's soy juice. Know how come I know there's no such thing as soy milk? Because there's no soy titty, is there? -- Louis Black

    Well, You can mold tofu in lots of shapes.

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    Soy Milk is for people who haven't tried Almond/Rice Milk
    Almond/Rice Milk is for people who haven't tried HazelNut Milk

    Cows don't even drink cow milk, only calves do.

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