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Old 10-21-06, 05:49 PM   #1
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EC / ECA Stack Info

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What it is?

Epherine (E) and Caffeine (C) stacked together, you can also add Aspirin (A), although many see results with just the EC, as those are the active ingredients.

What does it do?

In a nut shell, it speeds up your heart rate at all times and helps with long term endurance. Thus, you are burning more calories at all times. So far, its the only proven theromogenic that actually works. Pretty much everything else you see is just sugar and caffeine. The ephedrine is the what makes it effective. It also makes you piss and sweat a ton, so you MUST drink tons of water to avoid dehyration. Many of the side effects you see on TV/read about, are a direct result of dehydration. If you are on it, drink at least 3L of water a day.

Where to find it?

1fast400.com. The ephedrine is sold under the biotek and vasopro label in 25mg tabs. Any generic 200mg caffeine tab will be fine, also found at 1fast400.com

How much/when to take?

Start off with 1 dose a day in the morning before you eat. See how you feel, if you are sensitive to caffeine, you will be jittery. Once you get used to it (1 or 2 weeks), step up to 2 a day. 1 in the morning, 1 in the afternoon.

Some people take 3 doses a day, but results may very. DO NOT EXCEED 100mg of Ephedrine in 24hrs. Thats the upper limit, and the rest of the side effects you see come from abuse. Taking twice as much wont make you lose the fat twice as fast. Also, DO NOT TAKE IT IF YOU HAVE ANY KNOWN HEART ISSUES OR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. No need to put the extra stress on your heart.

Lastly, THIS IS NOT A MIRICLE DRUG OR A FAT BURNING PILL. In order for it to be effective, YOU MUST WORK HARD. If you simply take it without excercising or changing your diet, you wont see measurable results. If you think this will happen, save your money. Once again, this isnt excercise in a bottle, its simply an AID to hard work that will speed the fat burning process up. Some people cycle on/off, some don't. If you stop seeing results, go off it for a week or two, then start back up.

What do you guys think about this? I saw this on another website and would like some input. I am looking for something to help/speedup weightloss even if it is just a placebo effect. I have done a lot of research and this seems like it is one of the safest legal options that might actually work.
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Old 10-21-06, 08:04 PM   #2
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EC/ECA stacks worked great for me, and it was definitely the ephedrine that was the magic ingredient. Unfortunately, ephedrine has been banned in the US by the FDA. You could still find some from out of country web sites, but you're most likely going to get a bogus pill filled with sawdust or something. If you think the placebo effect is worth $30. bucks or more for a bunch of phony pills is worth it, then by all means send your credit card number to this company who promises to sell you either an illegal substance or garbage. Better yet, send me your credit card number and I will sell you $30 worth of magic Tic-Tacs that work for weight loss as long as you believe really hard. Sorry, I'm sure you were not looking for sarcasm but this is pretty risky and I hope you know better. Good luck.
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mp/vaso.html

I used that in my ECA stack. I was very happy with my last cut. Although I have come to realize that the best cut is good old diet and cardio. While it did help, if I were to cut again I think I would not do an ECA stack.
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Old 10-22-06, 08:47 AM   #4
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I guess there's no "downside" to drug usage...... Seems like there could be some changes to blood pressure and kidney function, but hey - gotta get "ripped..."
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nope, there are absolutly no downsides whatsoever to ephedrine use. Its a harmless substance with no bad side effects. Why is the FDA so shortsighted with their blind faith in double-blind clinical studies?


Ride more. Eat better.
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EC/ECA stacks worked great for me, and it was definitely the ephedrine that was the magic ingredient. Unfortunately, ephedrine has been banned in the US by the FDA.
Not true...you can still find it in various products, including Bronkaid.
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