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Old 12-06-06, 06:34 PM   #1
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I am interested in finding our what the main complaints are with respects to health and cycling and related nutritional needs. what nutritional supplements are available specificaly for cyclists? do you believe there is a market for such products? I would like to share my knowledge with you, but first I would like to hear what you have to say.
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Old 12-06-06, 07:42 PM   #2
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Main complaint about nutrition - every different viewpoint on the spectrum has scientific proof their view is right, and others are wrong. Each view has financial livelyhood based on people believing their view. End result is no one knows whats right, and whats wrong anymore or who to beleive.

Nutrtional suppliment for cyclists - EPO

Market for them ? Sure. Cyclists wil buy darn near anything if it helps them race uphill.

Share your knowledge? Im a sceptic, id say your wanting to sell us something more than share knowledge, but go ahead.
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Old 12-06-06, 08:14 PM   #3
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Supplements are a waste of money, in my opinion. There is a huge market for the stuff, as evidenced by the load of junk out there for sale. You wouldn't by chance be trying to sell something, would you?
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Considering that supplements are typically derived from foods to begin with, you might as well eat the food and save yourself the cost of processing, packaging, distribution and sales costs. I prefer the taste of real food versus pills.
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Considering that supplements are typically derived from foods to begin with, you might as well eat the food and save yourself the cost of processing, packaging, distribution and sales costs. I prefer the taste of real food versus pills.
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people, people, people! "Pills" make you feel like you are doing the right thing. Right? So wouldn't a paste that you can eject from a munitions shaped metallic container make you feel even more healthy and masculine?...Now, you can not only "feel" like you are doing the right thing, but also [I]look[I]like you are. think: I feel and look so healthy right now!

suggestion: I want to look and feel healthy. Hint: I'll buy it.
suggestion#2: share your knowledge and I promise not to be silly anymore.
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Actually share some before & after pictures of scantily-clad chics and I'd gladly listen!
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Old 12-06-06, 10:19 PM   #8
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If there was something that would allow you to go beyond bonking out and never bonk again would that be something that would interest the avid cyclist? Just for information. I am a female cyclist of 6 years and have had variouse related health problems. I am also interested in finding a solution to my problems as well as helping fellow cyclists. Keep responding. Tell me the problem I will find the solution!!
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Yeah right, no such thing as "never" in life. "Oh, I wuv you! I'll never cheat and I'll never leave you!"... uh huh....

My problem is I'm trying to break a 4-hour century solo. Energy-expenditures comes in at around 1000-1100 calories/hour. Been able to do it with 5-man TTT, but not solo. I'm thinking an IV-drip of glucose-solution directly into the bloodstream to bypass the digestive system's limited absorption-rate would be the answer....

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If there was something that would allow you to go beyond bonking out and never bonk again would that be something that would interest the avid cyclist? Just for information. I am a female cyclist of 6 years and have had variouse related health problems. I am also interested in finding a solution to my problems as well as helping fellow cyclists. Keep responding. Tell me the problem I will find the solution!!
Somebody beat you to the solution to that problem. They're carbohydrates.

Now that you mentioned it though, I do have this problem. I want to be faster, but it takes a lot of time. I'd be most appreciative if you had anything to fix that. I bet even an avid cyclist would but it.
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Unfortunately, all the really good stuff requires injecting with a hypodermic needle otherwise your stomach-acids will digest it and render its effects useless... This is what team-doctors are for....
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I am a female cyclist of 16 years and have had various health related problems too.

I am also an ultra-distance cyclist and can ride 24-hour events (24 hours straight through with no sleep) and 1200K randonnees without bonking. I do it by following a sensible eating plan.

1. I start with a good supper the night before,
2. I have a breakfast of around 500 calories,
3. I consume about 250-300 calories per hour for the first 6-8 hours,
4. Somewhere around the 6-8 hour point I consume of a meal of 500-1000 calories,
5. I get back on the bicycle again and return to consuming 250-300 calories per hour for the next 4-6 hours
6. Somewhere around the 4-6 hour point I consume another meal of 500-1000 calories
........ and repeat till the ride is done!

As for what I eat ... I eat what I crave because once you are fit, your body will tell you what you need. Plus when you put your body under that kind of stress, many cyclists suffer from digestive issues and you have a much better chance of keeping the food down if you eat what you crave. And my cravings are all over the map: beef jerky, pizza, bacon and eggs, cinamon buns, orange juice, garlic toast, etc. etc. just to name a few.

However, since you're asking about products, here's what I'd like:

Something very small (a pill would be great or maybe an energy bar the size of a chocolate "Turtle") with a nice mix of carbs, protein, and fat amounting to about 300 calories each. If someone could produce that ... I'd be very interested!
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Something very small (a pill would be great or maybe an energy bar the size of a chocolate "Turtle") with a nice mix of carbs, protein, and fat amounting to about 300 calories each. If someone could produce that ... I'd be very interested!
I think Willy Wonka's Everlasting Gobstopper is what you're looking for...
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what nutritional supplements are available specificaly for cyclists?
Other than the lousy grammar and spelling, can anyone tell me what else is wrong with this post?

Are their any supplements available that specifically keep me from being a wise-azz?
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Old 12-07-06, 10:03 AM   #15
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Thank you for giving me a decent answer. I find you comments very informative. That is all I have asked from you guys nothing else. I am sorry if my grammer is not up to par, I will make an effort to improve.
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I would like to share my knowledge with you

I am still curious about what knowledge you have to share.
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Are their any supplements available that specifically keep me from being a wise-azz?

Sure, a little diazepam and morphine will have you telling everyone you love them in no time flat.
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I am still curious about what knowledge you have to share.

Yeah! Me too!! I want to know if someone is finally working on the "Meal Pill".
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Thank you for giving me a decent answer. I find you comments very informative. That is all I have asked from you guys nothing else. I am sorry if my grammer is not up to par, I will make an effort to improve.
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Sure, a little diazepam and morphine will have you telling everyone you love them in no time flat.
throw a little Vicodin in there, and I'll take whatever Mr. Crainium doesn't want
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there are to many supplements out there. the market is saturated. i don't think you really understand, the term bonking, it's old and not used to much now, anbody remember that supplement that was out 4 or 5 years ago, bottle of bonk or bonk in a bottle, somthing like that, by one of the big vitamin companies, they had to withdraw it, after a huge lawsuit, thats when everybody stopped using bonking. get up to date with your terminology, if your planning on giving us something new.
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there are to many supplements out there. the market is saturated. i don't think you really understand, the term bonking, it's old and not used to much now, anbody remember that supplement that was out 4 or 5 years ago, bottle of bonk or bonk in a bottle, somthing like that, by one of the big vitamin companies, they had to withdraw it, after a huge lawsuit, thats when everybody stopped using bonking. get up to date with your terminology, if your planning on giving us something new.
There are a lot of supplements on the market already ... sadly a lot of them are not available in Canada or other countries. Many are not available here in Canada because they are illegal. And there's still room for one more supplement ... the "meal pill" has still not been created!!!

You must be new to cycling ... the term "bonk" is still very commonly used among cyclists.

However, I will agree with you that the OP did not appear to understand the fundamental principles behind bonking or else she would not have stated that by using a single product a cyclist would never bonk again.
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I hate the current selection of flavors in supplements. I'd like to see more Asian and South Asian flavors like tikka masala or lime leaf.
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To simplify things, the answers to your questions are none and sure they're plenty of suckers out there. Start by marketing the product(s) to those that bought Pet Rocks.
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However, I will agree with you that the OP did not appear to understand the fundamental principles behind bonking or else she would not have stated that by using a single product a cyclist would never bonk again.
I think bonking means something else completely different in the southern hemisphere. If she can provide me with a pill that allows me to bonk any time I want, I'd gladly pay $1mil for a year's supply....
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