Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Training & Nutrition Learn how to develop a training schedule that's good for you. What should you eat and drink on your ride? Learn everything you need to know about training and nutrition here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-05-07, 12:20 PM   #1
jbhowat
@ Checkmate Cycling
Thread Starter
 
jbhowat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Bikes: CAAD 8 - Ultegra
Posts: 1,622
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've taken a year off - How to get back into it the right way? (nutrition + training)

I'm currently a junior in college. I raced my freshman and sophomore years for my collegiate team, and I had a lot of fun. I always raced as a "C" and was planning on moving up to B's this year (probably would have been pack-fodder last year as I was always in contention for most of the C races).

Last December 2005 I woke up one weekend morning and realized the inside of my right knee, almost under the knee cap was in pretty much severe pain. Didn't know what happened, stupidly I rode a few times like that before finally going to a doctor and a physical therapist. It seemed that a tightness/muscle imbalance in my laticerus medialis was causing my knee-cap to grind on the soft, smooth part underneath it - inflaming both areas and causing pain. My left knee was about 99% as bad as the right. I began a stretching program (previously I never stretched...) and took some time off from cycling (during what should have been my highest training time). I raced and did pretty well - took two podiums, a couple top 10s, and a prime win in the last race. All of this despite the fact I could barely train. I stopped going on / leading group rides because I was afraid to push myself too hard and have my knees hurt the next day. I basically just went to the races most weekends and even some of those I had to drop out after the frist day (with 2 events). By the end of the collegiate season my knees were still bugging me.

I had one target USCF race and my knees ended up forcing me to drop out of the RR portion of it (I threw a chain in the ITT and was caught behind a crash in the Crit). Then I got a new bike which I had been saving up for. The last of the CAAD8's, a Cannondale R1000c. Really a super-sweet bike. Yet it still sits with less than 500miles on it in my room. Before I could even dial the bike in I got so burned out I basically just stopped riding. I used to have so much fun and it became a chore. I stopped shaving my legs (good thing cause its freakin cold this winter).

I decided I wouldn't race much this year after going back and forth on the issue for a while. I resigned from my post as one of 4 chief officers of the cycling club, letting people down I'm sure. I think I'm just going through some serious burnout. I plan on riding RAGBRAI this summer with my dad as a fun thing / mild training. I was once riding so much I struggled to stay above 165. Now I eat like ****, don't get much activity and I'm probably closer to 185, although still what most people would consider "slim."

I want to turn it around and get back in shape to race competitively as a Men's B / Cat 4 by next spring (which will be spring of 2008). I'm fairly busy with school and right now there's snow on the ground and its cold. I do have a good amount of time in the summer though. I'm looking to do some stuff in the gym to hopefully help me get in good shape without being on the bike right away. Maybe by this spring/summer I'd like to be able to jump into some moderate group-rides and be able to hang. Those kind of rides are what I really enjoyed and I feel like being injured pulled me away from that and made me ride solo, which is boring as hell and a chore.

So what are some good things I can be doing at the gym to help get back in shape? My girlfriend goes sometimes and wouldn't be opposed to us going more often maybe twice a week. I can maybe squeeze in once by myself for the less "social" times (I can do cardio with her, but she's not into lifting much so if I do that it could be on the solo day).

Nutritionally I'm looking for a simple diet that won't leave me unable to workout. I'm trying to burn fat first I guess, as well as build muscle (although I feel like that should come a bit later after I get some good "base" so its not hugely important that I pack on muscle). Weekdays I can eat 3 meals a day in the dorms on campus. I've decided to do this because 1. it saves money 2. it saves time 3. there is a wide selection 4. when I was slim as hell I was eating there all the time.

I eat mostly the same stuff everyday. This is pretty much how I ate when I was riding all the time, in about the same quantities except then I ate more cake/cookies (a slice of cake and/or 4 cookies with lunch and dinner). I sense that I still have a pretty fast metabolism now that I'm looking at this, but not as good as when I was riding.

Breakfast:
1 16oz glass of Skim Milk
5 strips of bacon
3 hashbrown patties / equivalent amount of tator tots
1 biscuit
1 donut, cake, frosted

Lunch:
3 slices of pizza
1 160z glass of skim milk

Dinner:
I've been having frozen pizza or something at home with a glass of Kool-Aid

God that looks horrible. Not sure what I should do... I'm thinking something like this would be appropriate:

Breakfast:
1 16oz glass of milk
2 pieces of whole-wheat toast with butter/margarine
2 hashbrown patties
1 Small bowl of Cheerios with Skim Milk

Lunch:
Pasta with marinara sauce
1 16oz glass of "light" lemonade (honestly people I hate drinking plain water...)

Dinner:
Chicken with small side of pasta
Small Salad with olive oil / vinegarette
1 16oz glass of "light" lemonade
1 16oz glass of skim milk

(in reality dinner and lunch could be swtiched)

During the Day:
2.0-3.0L of 50% strength gatorade or "light" lemonade (like I said, I can't stand water, 3L of plain water would make me puke, yuck).
"Active" multivitamin at night before bed

A bottle of 50% Gatorade per hour while riding / working out.
A bottle of 100% Gatorade + Glutamine after a ride / work out. (did this when I was racing, not sure if its really needed when just working out or riding "base")


Anyway, how does that diet look? Keep in mind its cut back quite a bit from what it was when I was riding 4 times a week.

As far as the workouts go I'm clueless. Figure about 90 minutes of workout time, 3 times a week. Once it gets a bit warmer, I'll start riding on the in-between days (2 hr rides or so, base - probably by myself because everyone I know is gearing up to go hard for racing). Possibly phasing down into 2 days in the gym in the spring, with possibly less over the summer (my g/f and I will then prefer hiking, walking, etc to being inside).

I can also use the trainer, but it seems like at low intensities I'd need to go for soo... long....
jbhowat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-07, 01:15 PM   #2
sunmle
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: DC
Bikes:
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Except for the side salad at dinner, where are your fruits and vegetables?? You should eat a variety of them, and at least 5 servings a day. They're packed with lots of vitamins and minerals that are good for you!

Perhaps add some green tea as another beverage alternative to water, in addition to your lemonade.
sunmle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-07, 01:37 PM   #3
jbhowat
@ Checkmate Cycling
Thread Starter
 
jbhowat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Bikes: CAAD 8 - Ultegra
Posts: 1,622
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Aha! Thats a good comment. I'm not big on fruits and veggies, honestly. I know thats not good. Until last year I wouldn't touch a salad, ever...

I have a feeling I won't like green-tea, but I'll have to try it. It also wouldn't be a problem for me to put a salad in with lunch as well (in fact that was all I had today). Maybe I could throw some grape or an apple with breakfast as well. Although I've heard apples don't really count for much...
jbhowat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-07, 01:49 PM   #4
timmhaan
more ape than man
 
timmhaan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: nyc
Bikes:
Posts: 8,093
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
fruits, nuts\berries, and vegetables need to make an appearance. as well as lean meats and fish. and you should really start drinking plain 'ole water. and how can you not like water? it's what humans have been living on since the beginning of time. lol.
timmhaan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-07, 02:16 PM   #5
jbhowat
@ Checkmate Cycling
Thread Starter
 
jbhowat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Bikes: CAAD 8 - Ultegra
Posts: 1,622
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmhaan
fruits, nuts\berries, and vegetables need to make an appearance. as well as lean meats and fish. and you should really start drinking plain 'ole water. and how can you not like water? it's what humans have been living on since the beginning of time. lol.
If I'm not thirsty its just doesn't appeal to me, frankly. If I'm on the bike or otherwise doing something that makes me thirsty I can suck it down no problem.

Does anyone have any input on what I might try doing for training right now? Should I just jog/run on the treadmill? Seems like the greatest way to purely increase my aerobic capacity and cut some fat...
jbhowat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-07, 02:30 PM   #6
sunmle
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: DC
Bikes:
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Sure some grapes or apples would help. Bananas are great too. Nuts like almonds, pistachios are sources of good fat and some protein. With your salad at lunch I hope you're getting protein too like grilled chicken or tunafish. I would limit the pasta, or at least try the whole wheat/whole grain kind. Also maybe try a higher fiber cereal with some protein content, and add protein at breakfast; you've got dairy and lots of carbs, that's it. Egg whites, cottage cheese, peanut butter on the toast instead of butter, or a scoop of whey protein in a shake would help balance out breakfast.

I'm a bit of a novice, so won't try to comment on the training part. (sorry) Good luck!
sunmle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-07, 09:56 PM   #7
ericgu
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 1,941
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You're right that your original diet was horrible, and I agree with others that you need to find ways to add fruits and veggies. "Food for Fitness" is a pretty good book, and discusses diet at different times in training.

Your breakfast is okay - perhaps a bit too much fat in the hash browns, but okay. Lose the cheerios - they're mostly refined flour - and find a higher-fiber cereal. I'd also lose the gatorade as a snack - it's pure sugar and you don't need it at that point. It's fine to have that during a ride.
__________________
Eric

2005 Trek 5.2 Madone, Red with Yellow Flames (Beauty)
199x Lemond Tourmalet, Yellow with fenders (Beast)

Read my cycling blog at http://riderx.info/blogs/riderx
Like climbing? Goto http://www.bicycleclimbs.com
ericgu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-07, 11:09 PM   #8
grebletie
NorCal Climbing Freak
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 872
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Your diet doesn't look that bad. Just add some odd fruits or veggies, and you're set.

Remember, you're cycling, to a certain extent, you could put almost anything into your gullet and be fine.
grebletie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:07 AM.