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    peripheral neuropathy

    Does anyone have this problem and if hurts your cycling.?

    {EX:** cramping, loss of strength, muscle/foot atrophy, endurance, whatever else you feel or do not feel that helps or causes other issues with neuropathy and cycling abilities

    Also how do you deal with the pain besides medication?

    trying to get some insight and other ways to deal with this problem in cycling as well as every day activities.

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    what exactly are you experiencing? all of the above?

    i have an infrequent sensation of warm water being poured down my legs. it's the oddest thing. i'll just be standing there and it comes and goes in a few seconds time. doesn't seem to affect my cycling at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmhaan
    what exactly are you experiencing? all of the above?

    i have an infrequent sensation of warm water being poured down my legs. it's the oddest thing. i'll just be standing there and it comes and goes in a few seconds time. doesn't seem to affect my cycling at all.
    seems to be. I was exposed to herbicides in the military and the neuropathy has gotten worse in my feet and now above my ankles. I have also loss alot of my foot pad just underneath my toe area.
    I was just curious if others experience any form of neuropathy and how they deal with it.

    what you are describing sounds like neuropathy in my mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAMMER MAN
    seems to be. I was exposed to herbicides in the military and the neuropathy has gotten worse in my feet and now above my ankles. I have also loss alot of my foot pad just underneath my toe area.
    I was just curious if others experience any form of neuropathy and how they deal with it.

    what you are describing sounds like neuropathy in my mind
    I do not have any neuropathies, but several people close to me do.

    Do you experience foot drop, or muscle wasting in other places than your foot, and when is the pain worse?

    Have you tried to do some range of motion exercises, massage, stretching, as well as other strength exercises, and not just confine your exercise to only biking?



    From what I understand nerve pain is very hard to deal with, even with drugs, and it seems to be a mind over matter thing, and many people have to find there own way to deal with it that will work for them. My wife says meditation works for her as a good distraction method. She used to go to tai-chi classes at one time but they caused her too much pain. Sometimes, when she is in pain she goes through the tai-chi movements in her head; for her, it is meditation that takes her mind of the pain. I think it also helps her, because she has to breathe slowly and rhythmically when she is meditating like that.

    Unfortunately, the people I know with neuropathies do not bike. What I have noticed is that when the pain gets really bad they takes more drugs for the pain and becomes less active, in turn this makes her stay inside and start getting down because of the pain, which makes everything worse, it is a vicious cycle. I wish I could say, keep active to keep the pain away, but that is much easier said than done in some cases.

    I also have a few research articles about exercise and supplementation for people with significant neuropathies. If you like I can send them to you or give you details of them if you wish.

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    I believe that I have suffered from some form of this due to mercury toxcicity and it has caused some foot pain from time to time and I'm dealing with it by going through detoxification. I noticed many years ago that I had strange, numb sensations on the top of my feet when I touched them but I put it down to other things as I have had a number of operations on my feet. From what I have read here and there its common for your body to shunt toxic substances off to your feet because its as far from your heart and other major organs as it can get it.

    In the last couple of years I have been making a major effort to detoxify but this is a rough road to follow although maybe the only road if you realy wan't to get better. There are risks involved because before you can excrete a toxic substance you have to mobilise it first and thus you can suffer from some further poisioning as some of the toxins finds new homes. Its REALY important that your bowel keeps moving through detoxification. Look up detoxification protocols on the web. I'm detoxing from heavy metals so I'm not familiar with the specifics of herbacidal detoxification althought there are some simmilarities in that in both cases the toxin is stored in your bodies fatty tissues.

    Two suppliments I can reccomend for detox are Chlorrella, which is a powerful detoxification agent and taking ample magnesium which I have found to be critical for my heavy metal detox. I think magnesium has been very important in protecting my heart from the detoxification proccess.

    Regards, Anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by !!Comatoa$ted
    I do not have any neuropathies, but several people close to me do.

    Do you experience foot drop, or muscle wasting in other places than your foot, and when is the pain worse?

    Have you tried to do some range of motion exercises, massage, stretching, as well as other strength exercises, and not just confine your exercise to only biking?



    From what I understand nerve pain is very hard to deal with, even with drugs, and it seems to be a mind over matter thing, and many people have to find there own way to deal with it that will work for them. My wife says meditation works for her as a good distraction method. She used to go to tai-chi classes at one time but they caused her too much pain. Sometimes, when she is in pain she goes through the tai-chi movements in her head; for her, it is meditation that takes her mind of the pain. I think it also helps her, because she has to breathe slowly and rhythmically when she is meditating like that.

    Unfortunately, the people I know with neuropathies do not bike. What I have noticed is that when the pain gets really bad they takes more drugs for the pain and becomes less active, in turn this makes her stay inside and start getting down because of the pain, which makes everything worse, it is a vicious cycle. I wish I could say, keep active to keep the pain away, but that is much easier said than done in some cases.

    I also have a few research articles about exercise and supplementation for people with significant neuropathies. If you like I can send them to you or give you details of them if you wish.

    i have been away on vacation to see my son in Ca., i appreciate your reply.
    to answer some of your questions:

    I have foot drop both feet, recently the left foot has started to buckle when I walk, kind of like when your knee goes out.
    I do have otho devices, called walk on, made from carbon fiber which give the feet the ability to more or less walk normally. gives the spring back into your foot as well as support,but I have acquired some really painful core type callouses in the left foot from atrophy of the foot pad, and a bunion type or neuroma in the lower metatarsial area in the right foot.
    I am lucky to an extent that all the work is done and is free at the veterans hospitial, but I just need more insight on dealing with the pain and everyday activities.

    I will not give up my cycling or the weight lifting, as I believe hthis is very,very beneficial as well as strengthing the muscles, and m ore blood flow to the lower extermities.

    i do take pain meds, but I am tired of the medication, since the pain is worse they have upped the dosage but this is only short lived remedy as they seem to believe stronger pain medication is the answer.
    I know there is no cure-all for this type of pain and at times it is quite excruitating.

    I weight lift also, always full body work-out, {ex** legs chest, calves, etcetra.

    If you could send those articles it would be greatly appreciated.
    e/m address.
    Alles 1952 @sbcglobal.net

    I appreciate your reply
    regards,
    gary
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyG
    I believe that I have suffered from some form of this due to mercury toxcicity and it has caused some foot pain from time to time and I'm dealing with it by going through detoxification. I noticed many years ago that I had strange, numb sensations on the top of my feet when I touched them but I put it down to other things as I have had a number of operations on my feet. From what I have read here and there its common for your body to shunt toxic substances off to your feet because its as far from your heart and other major organs as it can get it.

    In the last couple of years I have been making a major effort to detoxify but this is a rough road to follow although maybe the only road if you realy wan't to get better. There are risks involved because before you can excrete a toxic substance you have to mobilise it first and thus you can suffer from some further poisioning as some of the toxins finds new homes. Its REALY important that your bowel keeps moving through detoxification. Look up detoxification protocols on the web. I'm detoxing from heavy metals so I'm not familiar with the specifics of herbacidal detoxification althought there are some simmilarities in that in both cases the toxin is stored in your bodies fatty tissues.

    Two suppliments I can reccomend for detox are Chlorrella, which is a powerful detoxification agent and taking ample magnesium which I have found to be critical for my heavy metal detox. I think magnesium has been very important in protecting my heart from the detoxification proccess.

    Regards, Anthony
    appreciate you reply and will research your suggestions
    thank you
    regards,
    gary
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