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Old 04-26-07, 09:03 AM   #1
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What to eat for breakfast?

Can anyone recommend a lower carb breakfast that isn't yogurt (it gets to my stomach in the morning).

Right now, I'm eating cereal with my kids, and I've been advised that moving to a higher protein/lower carb based meals would be helpful in terms of training and weight loss.
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Scrambled Egg Whites and Ground turkey... High in protein and low in carbs
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Cottage cheese with almost anything in it.
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Eggs with spinach and a little mozzarella cheese.
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Steak and eggs, baby!
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Steak and eggs, baby!
ha yeah right.

I'm partial to Raisin Bran for breakfast. It's great stuff for weight loss or weight maintenance. It's pretty high in carbs, but a lot of that is from fiber, so it doesn't count so much. Added protein and calcium from skim milk makes for good training as long as you give it time to settle before you get your heart rate up.

Egg whites are great too if you're really trying to cut the weight. Pure protein, no fat, no carbs. I wouldn't recommend any type of training on a low carb diet tho.
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Egg Beaters and Smoked Salmon....

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ha yeah right.

I'm partial to Raisin Bran for breakfast. It's great stuff for weight loss or weight maintenance. It's pretty high in carbs, but a lot of that is from fiber, so it doesn't count so much. Added protein and calcium from skim milk makes for good training as long as you give it time to settle before you get your heart rate up.

Egg whites are great too if you're really trying to cut the weight. Pure protein, no fat, no carbs. I wouldn't recommend any type of training on a low carb diet tho.
Sure, raisin bran is great for weight loss and maintenance - if you're a 15 year old girl.
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Sure, raisin bran is great for weight loss and maintenance - if you're a 15 year old girl.
what the heck is that supposed to mean?
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lol... just eat some meat and egg whites
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what the heck is that supposed to mean?
Greg has lots of good info... he just gets a little spunky at times. Probably all that synthetic testosterone.
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Eggs. I have seen claims that they also help keep you feeling full longer (so you snack less), but that may be Egg Council propaganda.
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Greg has lots of good info... he just gets a little spunky at times. Probably all that synthetic testosterone.
Synthetic test is a wonderful thing, provided you also take some anti-e to eliminate ball shrinkage!

And why I said that:
1. You need more protein in the morning. Your body is in a catabolic state and needs to rebuild.
2. Processed carbs + sugar = recipe for a diabetic like crash, and considering that so many cyclists consume large amounts of simple carbs anyway, it's setting yourself up for potential diabetes. Processed foods like cereals are just bad news.
3. Unless you're training that AM, you don't need the carbs. Your muscles will have plenty of stored glycogen.

If you're gonna eat carbs for breakfast, make it very low glycemic carbs such as oatmeal. I'll often have an egg white omelette with cold oatmeal - just pour milk and berries over it and let it sit 15 minutes to get soft. Yummy.

You need less carbs than you think. I rode 30 hilly miles yesterday on less than 20g of carbs the entire day at a 20mph average. However, more than 30 miles and it's definitely a requirement - that's when I break out the gel and cytomax. Anything less I try to stick to fruit and water when training. A race is a different matter of course.
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Eggs. I have seen claims that they also help keep you feeling full longer (so you snack less), but that may be Egg Council propaganda.
Both protein and fat take much longer to digest than carbs - fat being the slowest to digest. Therefore beef, fish and eggs make perfect foods for those who want to increase satiety. Cottage cheese is a good food for brekkie as well for that reason.
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what the heck is that supposed to mean?

It means he is both ignorant of nutrition and a chauvinist. Two idiots for the price of one.
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It means he is both ignorant of nutrition and a chauvinist. Two idiots for the price of one.

*lol* yeah because we all know you built those guns on raisin bran!

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1. You need more protein in the morning. Your body is in a catabolic state and needs to rebuild.
2. Processed carbs + sugar = recipe for a diabetic like crash, and considering that so many cyclists consume large amounts of simple carbs anyway, it's setting yourself up for potential diabetes. Processed foods like cereals are just bad news.
3. Unless you're training that AM, you don't need the carbs. Your muscles will have plenty of stored glycogen.

If you're gonna eat carbs for breakfast, make it very low glycemic carbs such as oatmeal.

You need less carbs than you think. I rode 30 hilly miles yesterday on less than 20g of carbs the entire day at a 20mph average. However, more than 30 miles and it's definitely a requirement
Okay... you've piqued my interest here, in a couple areas, and I need some clarification. I eat pretty healthy, and do a pretty fair job at shunning processed foods. But I'm a cereal hound. Typically generic grape nuts or a flax granola or kashi. They all seem to be less processed than most cereals (no?), and reasonable GI levels. Are you lumping all cereals in your naughty box, or speaking mostly of those all-sugar, almost-no-grain cereals that make up about 80% of the aisle now? (By the way, I am a big fan of steel cut oats, and I am trying to transition to that, but the convenience of cereal is a significant roadblock.)

I am also not sure I can afford to be as anti-carb as you... I never ride less than 30 miles, and I can never seem to get enough carbs (pre and during ride). Moreover, wouldn't you say that carbs are pretty important (in that 4:1 sweet spot with protein) immediately after a hard workout?

Lastly, in my reading, it seems that most people are saying that it is protein that is over-rated and over-used. With the aforementioned obvious exception of post-workout, glycemic window, muscle repair/building. Do you disagree with this philosophy (for someone not interested body building)?
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Eat a banana every day. It reduces your chances of cramping in extreme heat. A construction guy told me this. If he doesn't eat a banana every morning, he cramps up by mid-afternoon on a hot day.
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Eggs, real eggs, whole eggs. Not that long ago even the Heart Foundations around the world got around to admitting that egg yolks aren't bad for the heart at all and never were but some propaganda dies hard even when the source of the propoganda recants.

I actualy have a salad for breakfast everyday. Mixed salad greens, fresh sauerkraut, avocado, olives and dressed with extra virgin olive oil.

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I actualy have a salad for breakfast everyday. Mixed salad greens, fresh sauerkraut, avocado, olives and dressed with extra virgin olive oil.

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I'm gonna hurl. Eggs, yes. Grape Nuts cereal, yes. Salad for breakfast? I'd rather fast. Not saying it isn't good for you. Just not appetizing to me at all.
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op-if you were told higher protein that just means get SOME not all protein i.e. have egss and oatmeal or egs and ww toast
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Eggs with bagel or toast. Pancakes from scratch with whole wheat flour and a little real maple syrup. No butter. French toast, same. Bean burrito with whole wheat or corn tortilla with salsa and cheese in it. Protein shake with bagel or toast. Hot cereal - steel cut oats, oatmeal, farina. Cold cereal - either muesli (LA's breakfast) or granola, with milk but no sugar. Never buy anything in the cereal aisle. Buy these cereals in bulk at a healthy grocery store. Eat something different every morning. Diversity is healthy.
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Steel cut oats with raisins everyday!
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