WishYouWasMe

Chinese food is very good for cyclists...in my opinion it has plenty of saturated fat and other things to keep u going...plus its not ALL carbs it also has lots of protein and vegetables.

Just make sure u order wit no msg.

kuan

This is just about the most ignorant and borderline racist post I've seen on this forum.

WishYouWasMe

how is it racist? Chinese carryout food is like that...i guess the newspaper articles talking about chinese food being high calorie/high fat were racist too.

kuan

There are many regions in China, many different kinds of foods. Chinese people in general eat chinese food without MSG and with little fat. It's only on special occasions when we eat fatty pork and roast duck.

WishYouWasMe

I've never said traditional chinese food wasnt healthy...I know its very different from carryout.

But I was specifically speaking about carryout chinese food...which is what's most easily available to most americans.

aikigreg

SO? The OP said nothing about that. Obviously he's still a dork for suggesting that Chinese food is the greatest thing for cyclists, but NOTHING said was racist. There was actually a recent study done about chinese restaurants in the us and I was flabbergasted by the hige amounts of sodium, sat. fat and calories packed in even the vegetable dishes. The way Chinese people eat in China and the way they cook at home are VERY different than the way it is served in restaurants. Gimme a break.

kuan

Nobody admits to eating that stuff these days. Nobody admits eating texamericana food either.

You can hardly even find a Chinese restaurant serving that crap these days.

Whatever, don't stereotype Chinese food based on what you haven't seen. Takeout or otherwise.

WishYouWasMe

Actually I came to my conclusion from my "energy is energy" theory. If you're on a bike then fat and carbs is what you burn. And in order for your cells to grow you need SATURATED fat....poly(Omega-6) and mono unsaturated fats are not proper for cell walls...and long chain fatty acids actually oxidize quickly and form free radicals. So its best to get most of your energy from saturated fat, complex carbs, and vegetables. Which carryout is loaded with. But yes u were right...it wasnt meant to be racist its based off actual nutritional data taken from carryouts.

kuan

Man you need to find a better Chinese food place. Just try not to eat the old standards if you can. The old style Chinese food with the fake noodles is gone. The newer more authentic regional styles are in.

WishYouWasMe

well tell that to the carryout that gave me my singapore rice noodles and shrimp fried rice.

It tastes soooooo good. And I didnt stereotype it I dont know where u live but in MD we have carryouts not restaurants in my neighborhood we have at least 4 in a two block radius. Now...Japanese restaurants...those are usually sit down and pretty pricey.

kuan

Yeah it tastes good. I remember having an upset stomach everytime I ate at this one place. My guess is that the sodium and MSG upset the electrolyte balance in my digestive system and made it difficult for me to absorb liquids and nutrients.

madprofessor100

I think the reason why people consider Chinese restaurants to be unhealthy is because they're ordering things like General Tso's chicken (if I remember correctly, it's not even a traditional Chinese dish). I definitely wouldn't say Chinese food is all carbs. If you go to the right restaurants, the meal you'll get will have a small portion of rice and a large portion of the meat/veggies/whatever else is in the dish. If you stick to the chop suey, soups, and stir-fry dishes instead of the fried rice and sesame chicken, Chinese restaurants are a healthy choice. Seriously, I've seen some Chinese buffets with chicken nuggets and french fries. They're just like any other restaurants where you have the option of getting the grilled chicken sandwich or the triple decker bacon cheeseburger with ranch dressing.

As far as the whole MSG thing goes, most restaurants give you the option of not having it in your food. Just ask.

fat_bike_nut

I'm Chinese, and I have to say that most of the food I eat is a lot healthier than what I see in American restaurants around here. And by the way, those newspapers came up with their brilliant conclusions is akin to a guy eating at McDonald's and saying, "Irish food is bad for you!"

uciflylow

It's all about the choices you make! I can go to our local "China Pan" or "Ryans" buffet and eat good for me, or bad for me. It is all about the choices "I" make!

BTW The big draw in all the Chinese places around here are crab legs?? Figure that one out?

aikigreg

Once more, there is a big difference in Chinese food and American style Chinese Restaurants. This thread is beyond stupid. I am not Chinese, but half my family is. The difference in food served is pretty obvious, with most chinese restaurant food being pretty unhealthy - MSG or no MSG. Not that I still don't eat it a lot!

fat_bike_nut

The main draw in Chinese buffets is All-You-Can-Eat seafood. People that absolutely love their seafood will be the majority of customers at Chinese restaurants, too, from what I've seen.

Kadowaki

Yeah but it's always funny when someone makes a blanket statement and we sit back and see who bites.

kuan

Crablegs are cheap. I used to order them by the case... so are those NZ mussells and that slab of salmon. The expensive stuff is the Oysters.

!!Comatoa$ted

Are you sure about that?

aikigreg

No, he's talking out of his arse. Saturated fat is necessary for many things, but it's no more important than the omegas.....

krazygluon

I wouldn't call it racists, just innacurate...he should have said "americanized chinese food" because you can find plenty of places in the US that serve stuff called chinese food that all starts with water cornstarch sugar and deep frying oil...occaisionally throwing in pork, chicken, carrots, broccoli, rice or noodles. My parents have a "chinese buffet" that opened up near their house...I love asian food but this is the worst ****e i've ever seen called chinese.

edit: i've even seen tortillas used as crepes for mooshu pork...WTF!

that said I think a lot of traditional cultural menus should be examined as people try to find out what to eat other than the preprocessed crap the media throws at us.

I personally argue sushi is the perfect night-before-the-ride food. rice for carbs,nori and veggies for vitamins and minerals,fish/eggs for simple proteins and a little bit of mercury to make you as fasta as quicksilver :0

WishYouWasMe

No...actually a PhD nutritionist from U-MD actually did research and explained that in any situation your body will use saturated fat over plant fat for the lipid wall. Besides long chain fatty acids are unstable, oxidize quickly, and destroy your cells. Why do you think animals have saturated fat in the first place? Because that's what we're supposed to have. I didnt say plants are unhealthy but eating oil made from cottonseeds definitely isnt.

"Since Kritchevsky's early studies, many other trials had shown that serum cholesterol can be lowered by increasing ingestion of polyunsaturates. The physiological explanation for this is that when excess polyunsaturates are built into the cell membranes, resulting in reduced structural integrity or "limpness," cholesterol is sequestered from the blood into the cell membranes to give them "stiffness."(Oiling of America)

"Erucic acid is implicated with cancer and rancidity and glucosinolates are goitrogenic. Canola oil reduces them to very low levels - 0.5 to 1% for erucic acid - which is well below the 2 percent limit set by the United States Food and Drug Administration." (Wikipedia)

Also...there is another link to an australian tv news site that states research that may implicate vegetable oils(excluding olive) in macular degeneration.

Also....vegetable oils(even liquid) ALL contain trans fat(except olive oil which is usually cold-pressed) this is created because of the extreme temperatures and pressure the oil is exposed to during deodorization and does not have to be listed on the label.

https://www.abc.net.au/dimensions/dim...ts/s927458.htm

KrisPistofferson

Didn't know so many on this forum were so impatient to get offended. Maybe we can get an Italian to talk about how victimized he is everytime someone orders a pizza. I'm warming up some Kung Pao Chicken right now, as I need a full stomach for when I burn a cross in someone's yard. Just sayin'.

WishYouWasMe

Lol FINALLY someone comes in here and says something that makes sense. Saying a food is unhealthy is not an attack on someone's culture. If people say soul food is good for cycling because its filled with saturated fat and salt to keep you from dehydrating in a race...it doesnt mean they are racist against black ppl lol.

Besides...as you seem to notice...food is energy...and the more CALORIES I consume the more energy I have. Some of us aren't trying to lose weight those "strictly veggie and lean" diets dont work for everyone...if your skinny and eat a few vegetables and a chicken breast with pepper sprinkled on it you'll run out of energy in no time.

!!Comatoa$ted

Praytell, what is a cell wall and what is its function, WishYouWasMe?