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    My Cyclo-Core Forum question...I want your input too..

    I dunno how often that forum at cyclo-core is responded to so I am copying the same post here as well.
    I want opinions from this forum too especially from those who have bought their plans.
    Thanks.

    I've been cycling recreationally for about 2 years now and was a total beginner. I used cycling to reduce my weight and have become much better at it. I've done 50 mile rides before and can hill climb somewhat but that was last season.
    This past off season I bought at least 15 spinerval dvds and a bike trainer and worked with a treadmill to bring my weight down from January another 20 pounds.
    Two years ago I was 240 pounds and now am holding steady at around 177.

    Now I want more.
    I want a structured training plan along with your DVDs to take me to the next level but I'm not sure what I should go for....beginner or intermediate.
    Its my opinion that I am somewhere in between a beginner and an intermediate because I have developed power in the legs but still have a marshmellow core.

    Would intermediate be too hard for me? My fear is that beginner would be too easy for me. I can drop the average recreational rider when hill climbing in prospect park brooklyn but I myself am immediately dropped by those show-off pro riders.

    Opinions? Help cause I want to order in time to start by the beginning of June.
    Thanks.

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    I would really like opinions from you guys. I want to make sure I order the right thing.

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    I would give Graham a call and ask him. I thought I was advanced, but after talking to Graham he convinced me to buy the intermediate program. He said if I was not satisfied with it I could return it and he would send me the advanced program. Thank God I listened to him. The intermediate program is very hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woody_1029
    I would give Graham a call and ask him. I thought I was advanced, but after talking to Graham he convinced me to buy the intermediate program. He said if I was not satisfied with it I could return it and he would send me the advanced program. Thank God I listened to him. The intermediate program is very hard.
    Funny, cause he told me to get the intermediate program because it was better to have a bit of challenge and not to be afraid of it. But funnier still he told me to get the 12 week off season program even though I want to start it in June.
    I trained hard during the off season to get myself ready to tackle harder training for the summer. I just asked him to please confirm his suggestion again before I order.

    I just got through looking at 2 episodes of The Brookhaven Obesity clinic reality tv show on TLC. I'm going to go jogging on my lunch hour tommorow at work.

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    By the way this was the response I got from one of the forum admins:

    I would go with the 12 week off season intermediate program. I've done it the past two years. The best part about going one step above what you think you are capable of doing is that you push yourself. You can also deviate from the program if you want as well.

    I'm currently doing the advanced program and I make changes as time permits and depending on how I'm feeling. One thing for sure you will have a stronger core after completing this. Say goodbye to the mashmellow core.

    Best of luck.
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    Again, my confusion is shouldn't I be ordering an in-season program?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StalkerZERO
    By the way this was the response I got from one of the forum admins:



    Again, my confusion is shouldn't I be ordering an in-season program?

    Not necessarily. The off season program forms the foundation for going into the in-season program. There is plenty of bike time in the off-season plan so don't let that fool you into thinking that there isn't. Also, his plans are easily modifed. So, I would follow Grant's advice and get the intermediate off-season plan as he suggested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woody_1029
    Not necessarily. The off season program forms the foundation for going into the in-season program. There is plenty of bike time in the off-season plan so don't let that fool you into thinking that there isn't. Also, his plans are easily modifed. So, I would follow Grant's advice and get the intermediate off-season plan as he suggested.
    I'm not saying the off-season plan won't be quite challenging most likely its just that I thought all the work I did with the 15 spinerval dvds, treadmill, and the bowflex 4 times a week since January would have been considered an off-season......plan....of some sort.
    I'm just trying to grasp the subtlety in the differences is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StalkerZERO
    I'm not saying the off-season plan won't be quite challenging most likely its just that I thought all the work I did with the 15 spinerval dvds, treadmill, and the bowflex 4 times a week since January would have been considered an off-season......plan....of some sort.
    I'm just trying to grasp the subtlety in the differences is all.

    I'm sure your offseason workouts were good, but I'm not sure if they would prepare you for one of Graham's in-season plans or not. I would have no way to predict that. I haven't started my in-season yet, believe it or not. Too many things have prevented me from training the way I wanted since the end of March. I'm lucky now to get out for a few rides each week. Anyway, the primary difference as I recall is the time outside on the bike. The off-season has more workouts devoted to core strengthening whereas the in-season program is mostly time on the bike doing intervals, cadence workouts, and long weekend rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woody_1029
    I'm sure your offseason workouts were good, but I'm not sure if they would prepare you for one of Graham's in-season plans or not. I would have no way to predict that. I haven't started my in-season yet, believe it or not. Too many things have prevented me from training the way I wanted since the end of March. I'm lucky now to get out for a few rides each week. Anyway, the primary difference as I recall is the time outside on the bike. The off-season has more workouts devoted to core strengthening whereas the in-season program is mostly time on the bike doing intervals, cadence workouts, and long weekend rides.
    I think thats the thing thats getting to me. I know my core work off season was inadequate. But I did work hard all winter regardless. I have cabin fever. Its just that I'm tired of working out inside the house. I want to get out in the sun on the bike. Its finally warm in NY now.

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