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Old 05-27-07, 06:20 AM   #1
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Hi,

About 2 yrs or so ago I weighed 10 1/2 stone or about 147lbs, I'm about 1.72 metres tall and I didn't look good like that. I was in bad shape. Since then I've eaten less rubbish and got a lot of exercise. I lost a lot of weight through cycling. I now weigh under 8 1/2 stone or 119 lbs. I've never been stronger or in better shape but im just too thin, I don't look write. I need to put on a few pounds just to look healthier. The curious thing is even though I've become really skinny I've got a small gut. That's where I put on the weight but I need to put a little bit on my face and other places. I still get plenty of exercise and now allow myself to eat whatever I feel like. I make sure to have a one proper meal every day plus lunch. With work it is pretty well impossible for me to get a second big meal in during the day.

Any advice or thoughts?

I'm a 24 yr old guy by the way.
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Old 05-27-07, 07:07 AM   #2
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I don't look write.
You don't write right either.

Try lifting some weights. Cycling a lot cannibalizes your upper body mass, and a decent weight lifting program will make you a little more you all over. It also sounds like you could use a nutritionist. At the very least, start counting calories.

It's also possible that it's genetic. Some people are built a little oddly.

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This is something I've been battling with myself for several years now. No matter how much I have upped my exertion level and lowered my calorie intake that stubborn spare tire just will not go away. Four years ago I quit drinking after twenty years of alcohol abuse because I weighed 370 pounds from drinking nearly a half gallon of whiskey on a semi nightly basis. Over the next couple years sixty or so pounds heve come off relatively easily but for the last two no amount of excercise will get rid of the last bit of pudge. I've developed a very heavy musculature in this process but still the flab around the middle remains.
My new theory is instead of dieting during this process to actually feed my muscles at the proper time, directly after heavy exertion with endurox to hopefully minimize the bodies tendency to cannibalize the recently tortured muscle tissue. Keeping the muscle tissue healthier hopefully will finally get the body to burn the fat. I'm still keeping daily caloric intake around 2000 but timing that intake differently. A light breakfast, preferably a bottle of ensure, followed by heavy excercise including bicycling, inverted pushups, situps, and crunches, followed by the endurox brings the calorie intake up to about seven hundred to a thousand by this point, and then supper at the end of the day.
I've only been doing this for a few days but am already seeing results, I remain hopeful.
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Thanks. And you are right, I wasn't writing that well either. Must be a lack of calories.

Ensure and endurox are these dietary supplements?
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Ensure is sort of like a light meal in a can, a liquid breakfast if you will, balanced with protein, carbs, a little fat, and a lot of vitamins. Excellent pick me up for when you don't have time to cook.
Endurox is a muscle recovery supplement that replaces the carbs and amino acids that are broken down in your muscles by rigorous exercise. The idea being to drink the endurox directly after exercising in order to replace these substances before your body breaks down more muscle tissue to replace it on it's own, within the first half hour to an hour after working out.
I started a few days ago by beginning the day with a bottle of the ensure, moving to my regular calisthenic routine, and then bicycling. I take the endurox with me on the ride, drink half at the ten mile point, then the other half at the twenty(the end of the trail). In two workouts in three days I can already see and feel a difference.
Before I was not eating after working out figuring the body would take the fat first, a couple years later(and reading a bunch of articles here and elsewhere) I've come to the conclusion that I figured wrong.
Timing of calorie intake and consuming the proper substances at the proper amount and ratio will hopefully work.
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Hi,

About 2 yrs or so ago I weighed 10 1/2 stone or about 147lbs, I'm about 1.72 metres tall and I didn't look good like that. I was in bad shape. Since then I've eaten less rubbish and got a lot of exercise. I lost a lot of weight through cycling. I now weigh under 8 1/2 stone or 119 lbs. I've never been stronger or in better shape but im just too thin, I don't look write. I need to put on a few pounds just to look healthier. The curious thing is even though I've become really skinny I've got a small gut. That's where I put on the weight but I need to put a little bit on my face and other places. I still get plenty of exercise and now allow myself to eat whatever I feel like. I make sure to have a one proper meal every day plus lunch. With work it is pretty well impossible for me to get a second big meal in during the day.

Any advice or thoughts?

I'm a 24 yr old guy by the way.
So, I'll tell you what I did to address that last bit of fat.

Over the last year or so, I've been eating a higher-fiber diet. I eat three real meals a day, along with snacks at mid-morning and mid afternoon (nuts, jerky, etc.). I drink a lot of water and try not to eat after dinner at night (sometimes I eat late when I do a night ride).

For cycling, I use accelerade during the ride and endurox after. That really helps to keep the hunger down after the rides.

The combination of all that took me from 175 pounds to 163 pounds over a year or so without really depriving myself. I'm 6'2", and I rode somewhere around 2500 miles last year.

I don't, however, have any extra meat on my face.

If I was going to suggest two things, I'd suggest looking at eating better and try to eat more often and smaller meals.
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Hi,

About 2 yrs or so ago I weighed 10 1/2 stone or about 147lbs, I'm about 1.72 metres tall and I didn't look good like that. I was in bad shape. Since then I've eaten less rubbish and got a lot of exercise. I lost a lot of weight through cycling. I now weigh under 8 1/2 stone or 119 lbs. I've never been stronger or in better shape but im just too thin, I don't look write. I need to put on a few pounds just to look healthier. The curious thing is even though I've become really skinny I've got a small gut. That's where I put on the weight but I need to put a little bit on my face and other places. I still get plenty of exercise and now allow myself to eat whatever I feel like. I make sure to have a one proper meal every day plus lunch. With work it is pretty well impossible for me to get a second big meal in during the day.

Any advice or thoughts?

I'm a 24 yr old guy by the way.
I've had some similar problems, and can share what I have learned.

You can pack a lunch. It is important to get three good meals in. You might simply not be getting enough calories. There are calorie charts on the web, and you can get a good sense of how many calories you are taking in. Some people have different metabolisms and need more calories.

Tension or stress can also inhibit weight gain.

I've found that adding more oil (esp. olive oil, which is one of the most healthful) helps. There are about 119 calories per tablespoon. You still need a well-rounded diet, with enough carbs and proteins, but you can go up to 30% (or more -- some studies have shown people doing well on 42%) of calories from fats or oils. It's best to avoid a lot of saturated fats and trans fats. Monounsaturated fats are best, followed by polyunsaturated.

Enjoying your food helps. If you eat nutritious but tasteless or uninspiring food all the time, it doesn't seem to nourish as well.

Muscles tend to fade away if not used enough.

Some people have low testosterone levels, which can keep you from gaining more muscle mass.

Enjoying life and activities more seems to help too.
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I've never been stronger or in better shape but im just too thin, I don't look [right]. I need to put on a few pounds just to look healthier.
Why do you care? I'm not being facetious... I would think performance and health would trump what you look like. I mean, unless you look like Rasmussen or a prison camp victim, wear your lean-ness with pride!
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