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    this one's optimistic... feethanddooth's Avatar
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    feel like my ankles/achilles tendons are sore

    ive been riding much more recently and have begun mashing more than spinning. to this my body is seemingly responding with sore ankles/Achilles tendons. is this soreness my tendons developing to handle the heavier load im putting on them? or is this something i should be concerned with?
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    don't know exactly what is creating it for you and would avoid giving Md advice but would suggest you double check your cleat positioning.

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    Yes, be VERY concerned. Ligaments and tendons have very little circulation and when you injure them, recovery can be very painful and lengthy (months). Stop mashing! It's a vicious circle where the higher forces imposed will cause the pain to get worse and worse. Also get your positioning checked out to make sure you're not too far out of range.

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    that is an odd sore spot, only guess is clean positioning... also different leg sizes of your two legs may possibly cause that? but im not sure

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    Try dropping the saddle a couple mm.

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    sore ankles. do you stand for a living, or stand on concrete a lot?
    i believe that it is what you are doing with the other 21 hours of the day when not on the 3 hr bike ride.

    just roll and rotate your ankles before the ride to stretch them out. it happens to be sometimes.
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    You have tight calves. Stretch, massage, ice them down after your workout. Get a stick or a rolling pin.

    Use your thumb and search for tender spots round your achilles and your calf muscles. If you find some, chances are that you're tight. Try resting up, massaging, and doing your hard mashing once a week or less.

    And of course, listen to Danno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiPHRaPH
    sore ankles. do you stand for a living, or stand on concrete a lot?
    i believe that it is what you are doing with the other 21 hours of the day when not on the 3 hr bike ride.

    just roll and rotate your ankles before the ride to stretch them out. it happens to be sometimes.

    unfortunately im in retail so im on them all day. ill try this out though before i start moving cleats around.
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    Ice! In addition to stretching calves and hammies, you must ice! min 10 min, max 20 min/session. I have an icepack w/ velcro straps so can slap it on when I get home and still chase the kids to wherever they need to be chased.

    And ibuprofen. The amount past the label that you can go in dose depends on your bodyweight. It's worth going to an MD for this. I'm in the middle of it now. Horror stories I've heard are truly horrible (worst was one guy, 6 months off his feet!!).

    Any chance you have flat feet, or just pronate a lot? New insoles for your shoes (biking and otherwise) could help. My MD said superfeet brand or equivalent, not Dr Scholls. He was so extensively clueless on stretching (and knew it), very glad I went to PT for help w/ that. She is doing this other insanely painful manipulation to break up tight spots in my calves, hopefully that's working, but who knows. I guess I wasn't seeing colors last time I went, so that's progress. One more visit w/ her then I'm free.

    One thing my PT, a biker, said was not to mess w/ my bike positioning at all, since that could mess up my knees once the ankles are straightened out . But then again my ankles blew up from an attempt at running, not any change in my biking, which had been working, or functioning at least. But the ankles were primed to go anyway from my insanely tight calves.

    So stretch! Umm, not for a long time, but often. My goal is 60 sec/leg/hr. If I can do that 6x/day I'm doing OK.

    So for me, in rough order of importance, 1) stop running, 2a) start stretching and icing, 2b) reduce biking (200 miles/wk down to ~90; this would drop to zero if no stretching/icing) 3) insoles everywhere, no more bare feet at home, and 4) ibuprofen and I am feeling better after a month of that (not been way overvolting the ibuprofen that whole time; I just remembered there's a whole flamewar here in the last couple weeks about whether to take that at all). After wks of that hourly stretching and occasional PT manipulation, she now has another month's worth (if they go well, longer otherwise) of strengthening exercises for me and after that, I can try to add low-key running or more biking back in.

    Also, right in there w/ insoles, paying a lot more attention to posture, not hyperextending my ankles either way (up or down), work on keeping them at 90 when sitting, and walking to a lesser extent, focus on bending foot at ball of foot when walking (bending more sharply at knee). A lot of that is probably specific to me and the state of my tendons rather than any random person w/ achilles problems. Again, worth a visit to a person who's seen a lot of ankles before.

    And, I've cut way back on coffee, way up on water. Probably down to 2-3 qts of coffee a day now, and maybe up to 2-3x as much water. Used to get a lot of cramps, haven't had one since I've been doing all this crazy stuff to deal w/ achilles.
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    down to 2-3 qts coffee a day???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
    down to 2-3 qts coffee a day???
    It might even be less than that. I think I had 20 oz at home before heading in, maybe only 10, and haven't had any yet at work. Expect 3-4 refills on 12-16 oz cup. I should probably measure it. Anyway, having a comparable sized thing of water between coffee refills helps me keep the coffee volume down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by late
    Try dropping the saddle a couple mm.
    Unless it's already too low, and causing too much of an ankle bend.

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