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    Cyclists' physiques

    Contrary to many others, while I enjoy cycling (100+ miles/week, 3 or 4 centuries / year), it is only part of my overall fitness plan and goals, which includes upper body strength, core strength, leg strength, low body fat, and endurance and cardiovascular capability.

    I chuckle when I read of those who propose minimal to no weight training and even less upper body training. Some would have you believe that the only way to fitness is through cycling and cardiovascular machines. My brother, alas, is in that group.

    Of all the pro athletes' physiques, the one that impresses me the least is the pro cyclist with his non-existent upper body, minimal biceps and triceps and 160# weight. Yes, they have great legs and are lean. But, what do they look like with their shirts off?

    My training revolves around achieving the body style that I find most desireable, the middle-weight boxer. Toward that end, I taylor my gym time to include free weights and machines and it has paid off toward this end (15" biceps, 48" chest, 10 pullups, and 225# (with 5 reps) bench press).

    Unless you are a pro cyclist, I think most fitness afficionados, including cyclists, would be well advised to pursue full body workouts.

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    Looking like a middle-weight boxer is definitely NOT my goal!!!

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    Meh. Whatever. Form follows function.
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    Your tone seems unnecessarily defensive, and a bit condescending, gg. Everyone has different goals and priorities. And for some people, what we "look" like is pretty far down the list.
    Last edited by VanceMac; 08-02-07 at 10:46 PM.

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    Are you trying to start an argument? We should be "well advised"? Well, I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you would be "well advised" not to push it on others. But, hey....that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyg8r View Post

    Of all the pro athletes' physiques, the one that impresses me the least is the pro cyclist with his non-existent upper body, minimal biceps and triceps and 160# weight.

    That's all of them.

    End thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyg8r View Post
    Contrary to many others, while I enjoy cycling (100+ miles/week, 3 or 4 centuries / year), it is only part of my overall fitness plan and goals, which includes upper body strength, core strength, leg strength, low body fat, and endurance and cardiovascular capability.

    I chuckle when I read of those who propose minimal to no weight training and even less upper body training. Some would have you believe that the only way to fitness is through cycling and cardiovascular machines. My brother, alas, is in that group.

    Of all the pro athletes' physiques, the one that impresses me the least is the pro cyclist with his non-existent upper body, minimal biceps and triceps and 160# weight. Yes, they have great legs and are lean. But, what do they look like with their shirts off?

    My training revolves around achieving the body style that I find most desireable, the middle-weight boxer. Toward that end, I taylor my gym time to include free weights and machines and it has paid off toward this end (15" biceps, 48" chest, 10 pullups, and 225# (with 5 reps) bench press).

    Unless you are a pro cyclist, I think most fitness afficionados, including cyclists, would be well advised to pursue full body workouts.
    You get on a forum about bicycles and you seem to be surprised that's just about all the exercise that's being discussed here. How interesting. I hope you've found some middleweight boxing forums to help you achieve your bodysculpting goals.
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    Bendchpressing and arm curls isnt gonna help me win races...

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    well...let's see that middleweight boxer physique...

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    Pfft you are a girly man, compared to my awesome Hercules like body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greyg8r View Post
    My training revolves around achieving the body style that I find most desireable, the middle-weight boxer. Toward that end, I taylor my gym time to include free weights and machines and it has paid off toward this end (15" biceps, 48" chest, 10 pullups, and 225# (with 5 reps) bench press).
    The body style I find most desirable is the 'Barbie Doll'.

    Homoerotic longing over middle-weight boxing type physiques just doesn't do it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1 View Post
    The body style I find most desirable is the 'Barbie Doll'.

    Homoerotic longing over middle-weight boxing type physiques just doesn't do it for me.
    nice one.



    OP: there are plenty on this board who could kick your ass in a bike race or in a boxing ring. nice try. be sure to let us know when your bf% and IQ intersect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *new*guy View Post
    nice one.



    OP: there are plenty on this board who could kick your ass in a bike race or in a boxing ring. nice try. be sure to let us know when your bf% and IQ intersect.
    Then, I commend them. Talk about hostility and defensiveness! What does "kick your ass" have to do with preferred training.

    I work out with guys who, like me, are into full body fitness, unlike a lot of members here, confirmed by this thread, who aren't. That makes me stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1inamil600 View Post
    well...let's see that middleweight boxer physique...
    Read the thread - didn't say I had one. Just said that was what I was working toward. But, you first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
    Pfft you are a girly man, compared to my awesome Hercules like body.
    Homophobe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmacguy View Post
    Bendchpressing and arm curls isnt gonna help me win races...
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb View Post
    You get on a forum about bicycles and you seem to be surprised that's just about all the exercise that's being discussed here. How interesting. I hope you've found some middleweight boxing forums to help you achieve your bodysculpting goals.
    Thanks. Yes I have. This is one of 3 or 4 that I frequent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMac View Post
    Your tone seems unnecessarily defensive, and a bit condescending, gg. Everyone has different goals and priorities. And for some people, what we "look" like is pretty far down the list.
    Didn't mean to sound condescending or defensive. My apologies. Just expressing my thoughts.

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    I work on my upper body a good bit, because it helps to have a strong core to maintain good posture while running (I run a lot). But if you are a very competitive runner or cyclist you want most of your weight in the legs because your legs are going to be hauling ass on race day and a big set of pecs are just unnecessary weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyg8r View Post
    Didn't mean to sound condescending or defensive. My apologies. Just expressing my thoughts.
    Well then, let your thoughts drift over to the fact that some of us here are WOMEN! Your bodybuilding forum might be mainly men, but over here there are a lot of female cyclists. We don't [necessarily] want heavily muscular upper bodies.

    As it happens, because of the job I had for a year and a half till this last April which involved hours of heavy lifting, I have swimmer-like shoulders ... but that's posing problems for me because I can't wear a lot of my jerseys now!!

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    While most of the replies are against you, I will take your side. I agree that upper body strength is important to have as well. I believe that more of the "cyclists physiques" (the ones with no upper body) are going to be found in road cyclists. However, you will find more upper body bulk in mountain cyclists as it does use more upper body. Heck, I also believe that you will find more upper body bulk in road cyclists too that are climbers as well as track racers (I remember seeing pics of track sprinters and they do have some guns). Sprinting, climbing, and mountain biking does use more upper body and does need more strength there. There is nothing wrong with a well balanced body.

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    dude, boxing's middleweight division is 154-160 lbs. just sayin.

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    well there's a reason a lot of them are skinny...as for weight training,i definitely think it's good in the offseason, and i am sure pro cyclists do some, but you have to be careful as to what types you do. I find that if i go too long without upper body weight training,i start to feel it, and usually that's what happens by the latter half of the season. However,i usually don't do it that much until the season is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greyg8r View Post
    Contrary to many others, while I enjoy cycling (100+ miles/week, 3 or 4 centuries / year), it is only part of my overall fitness plan and goals, which includes upper body strength, core strength, leg strength, low body fat, and endurance and cardiovascular capability.

    I chuckle when I read of those who propose minimal to no weight training and even less upper body training. Some would have you believe that the only way to fitness is through cycling and cardiovascular machines. My brother, alas, is in that group.

    Of all the pro athletes' physiques, the one that impresses me the least is the pro cyclist with his non-existent upper body, minimal biceps and triceps and 160# weight. Yes, they have great legs and are lean. But, what do they look like with their shirts off?

    My training revolves around achieving the body style that I find most desireable, the middle-weight boxer. Toward that end, I taylor my gym time to include free weights and machines and it has paid off toward this end (15" biceps, 48" chest, 10 pullups, and 225# (with 5 reps) bench press).

    Unless you are a pro cyclist, I think most fitness afficionados, including cyclists, would be well advised to pursue full body workouts.
    So all that matters to you is what someone looks like. OK, that's fine, but what matters most to professional cyclists is what will make them faster over "X" distance. And a big upper body hurts that. So if they get a big upper body, as a pro cyclist, they'll look great in the unemployment line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donrhummy View Post
    So all that matters to you is what someone looks like. OK, that's fine, but what matters most to professional cyclists is what will make them faster over "X" distance. And a big upper body hurts that. So if they get a big upper body, as a pro cyclist, they'll look great in the unemployment line.
    I believe society in general set the rule of having to look good.

    Pro mountain cyclists need the upper body strength. They will suffer without it and will be in the unemployment line.

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