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    Diabetes prevention questions

    For the experts on this forum (I know you are here). How does one PREVENT diabetes? My family history is worse than bad. My 69 year old dad is blind, deaf, amputated, heart attack'd and stroke'd, all due to diabetes. Other family members too!

    I need help preventing this fate. I ride 25-30 miles every other day on my cyclocross bike. I am in fairly good shape, with just a little extra weight. 190 instead of 180. I think that is because I ride, I am having trouble getting rid of those last few pounds, even while starving. If I don't ride, loosing weight is easy. My legs are kinda big and strong.

    I eat mostly salads w/fish and low glycemic foods. I avoid carbs and most fats. I am ultra careful about what I eat. Never anythng bad.

    My fasting sugar is nearing 100 overnight. Used to be 70. I have suffered from low sugar for years, not high. The trend is not good. However no problems yet.

    What can I do to PREVENT diabetes? I will do anything required! Does endurance riding help? How about starvation (I mean eating even less)? Being in perfect physical shape? What does it take? Weightlifting?

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    Here's 2 article from one of my favorite references,

    http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndi.../diabetes.html

    http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndi...loodsugar.html

    Regards, Anthony

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    Not to be a total downer, but I am unaware of any scientific evidence supporting the theory that Diabetes can be prevented. There are numerous studies showing that it can be delayed via exercise, diet, and even some medications, but not prevented. That said, eating a good healthy diet, getting lots of exercise, and controlling stress can go a long way towards helping one stay healthy even with diabetes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flip18436572 View Post
    PM sent.
    Do you not understand how a forum works?

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    Have you checked your carb intake with something like fitday.com ? I used to think mine was low and after inputing a few days worth of food, I really shocked myself.

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    Go vegetarian. Here's some quotes from The China Study by T. Collin Campbell

    "But after just three weeks, the Type 1 diabetic patients were able to lower their insulin medication by an average of 40
    %! Just as importantly, their cholesterol levels dropped by 30%."
    "Of the twenty five Type 2 patients, twenty four were able to discontinue their insulin medication!"
    "One man had a twenty one year history of diabetes and was taking thirty five units of insulin a day. After three weeks of intensive dietary treatment, his insulin dosage dropped to eight units a day. After eight weeks at home, his need for insulin shots vanished!"

    Just something to think about.

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    Triathlon in my future??? flip18436572's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthalpic View Post
    Do you not understand how a forum works?
    Yep, I am on many. This forum is not one that likes


    "The China Study"
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    I have read many articles that claim staying lean and exercise will keep most folks effectively immune from type 2. I'm sure eating nutrient dense foods vice calorie dense is important too, but it appears to be less so than the exercise and low body fat percentage.

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    1. do not go vegetarian. that means high carb, or at best, semi-high carb, poor quality protein, poor quality fats.
    2. Go low carb. You need to avoid anything with sugar, and avoid all starchy vegetables and minimize sugary fruits. Eat beef, lamb, pork, chicken, eggs, cheese, broccoli, spinach, squash, green beans, blueberries. There's more, but you get the idea. If nothing else, try it for a few weeks and watch your blood sugar normalize.
    3. Here's a sort of way out method, but it's supported by recent studies: Eat once a day. Instead of three or more meals a day, eat all of your calories within a 5 hour, more or less, window. This approach has been proven to show improvements in blood glucose, inflamation, oxidation, etc.
    4. Think for yourself and ignore anything written by T. Colin Cambell. The guy is a vegan zealot, not a scientist.
    5. Read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. He meticulously rips apart the lipid hypothesis/low fat diet and reveals just how bad the "science" is that pretends to support those ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfreddy View Post
    1. do not go vegetarian. that means high carb, or at best, semi-high carb, poor quality protein, poor quality fats.
    2. Go low carb. You need to avoid anything with sugar, and avoid all starchy vegetables and minimize sugary fruits. Eat beef, lamb, pork, chicken, eggs, cheese, broccoli, spinach, squash, green beans, blueberries. There's more, but you get the idea. If nothing else, try it for a few weeks and watch your blood sugar normalize.
    3. Here's a sort of way out method, but it's supported by recent studies: Eat once a day. Instead of three or more meals a day, eat all of your calories within a 5 hour, more or less, window. This approach has been proven to show improvements in blood glucose, inflamation, oxidation, etc.
    4. Think for yourself and ignore anything written by T. Colin Cambell. The guy is a vegan zealot, not a scientist.
    5. Read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. He meticulously rips apart the lipid hypothesis/low fat diet and reveals just how bad the "science" is that pretends to support those ideas.
    That is why I sent a PM.

    So, go for the heart disease and plugged arteries. That will help.
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    Ok...rather than relying on a bunch of cyclist on this forum....go speak to your Dr.
    Also ask to see a dietician while your there, perhaps you can get insurance to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    Ok...rather than relying on a bunch of cyclist on this forum....go speak to your Dr.
    Also ask to see a dietician while your there, perhaps you can get insurance to pay for it.
    Meh, where do you get the idea from that Dr's or dieticians know anymore about anything than a bunch of anonymous posters. Seriously

    Thats called "faith" and I seriously contend that we currently have a dominant "faith" based medical model. Now the theory is that our current medical model is based on "science" and not faith but the problem is that "science" IS the faith.

    Don't believe me? OK, when was the last time you read or even saw quoted the scientific studies that are supposed to support current advise?

    Don't remember. Point is we have faith in something we don't understand.

    Anyway do your own reading. Make your own decisions of what you are going to have faith in.

    Regards, Anthony

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    Thanks!

    For many years now, I have understood that I feel like utter crap when I eat anything with a high glycemic index. I can do it before a ride, but no other time. I have reactive hypoglycemia, in other words, my insulin output is high after carbs (even a tiny amount). I stay away from carbs, period. No bread, no croutons, no pasta, no beans, no rice, no high gly anything at all. Even apples give me trouble.

    Uncooked veggies and fish do very well with my situation. Slow to digest, no insulin reaction.

    Docs put me on a diet that sucks, I gain weight, feel like crap and it simply does not work for me.

    Lean and mean is the way I am going to go.

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    Good luck and I replied to your PM. You need to do what works for you and what is best for you.
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