Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Training & Nutrition Learn how to develop a training schedule that's good for you. What should you eat and drink on your ride? Learn everything you need to know about training and nutrition here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-12-08, 08:13 AM   #1
SSP
Software for Cyclists
Thread Starter
 
SSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redding, California
Bikes: Trek 5200, Specialized MTB
Posts: 4,618
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Why Are We Fat?

An interesting new series from the LA Times. Dated July 14th(?), but available online now:

http://www.latimes.com/features/heal...4.storygallery
SSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 04:03 PM   #2
kuan
Twincities MN
 
kuan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Salsa, Cannondale, Surly.
Bikes:
Posts: 2,527
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
That's a whole lot of excuses.
__________________
www.marrow.org
kuan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 04:33 PM   #3
Velo Fellow
Senior Member
 
Velo Fellow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 348
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
My gf is a bariatric physician's assistant. People are fat because of either a disordered psychology or physical, often several of them, disorders. Whatever its origination, obesity only leads to further health problems and often further emotional problems all of which only lead down to a tangled symbiosis of impairment. In the end, it takes the intervention of a surgical knife to try to solve their problems. Often the solution works, sometimes not. One patient began at 260 pounds two years ago but is currently down to 150-- he is now cycling 200 miles per week.

As for 10 lbs over, borderline bmi types, it seems often to be just a lack of motivation.
Velo Fellow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 04:43 PM   #4
Doctor Who
Lotion/Basket/Hose
 
Doctor Who's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Chicago
Bikes: 1992 Schwinn Paramount
Posts: 1,368
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Simple answer? It's because these are cheap and taste really, really good:

Doctor Who is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 04:53 PM   #5
valygrl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Boulder, CO
Bikes:
Posts: 8,363
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
and because we just sit on our asses all day watching tv that tells us to buy them. they don't taste really good.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Who View Post
Simple answer? It's because these are cheap and taste really, really good:

valygrl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 05:00 PM   #6
Velo Fellow
Senior Member
 
Velo Fellow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 348
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Greasy, juicy burgers....tasted good 30 years ago, but then we were told how destructive they can be (and they truly are) so they still taste good-- but leave a guilty aftertaste. On special occassions, I can live with a little guilt. But not often.
Velo Fellow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 05:13 PM   #7
SSP
Software for Cyclists
Thread Starter
 
SSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redding, California
Bikes: Trek 5200, Specialized MTB
Posts: 4,618
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
In other news, "fat acceptance" activists in Britain have been protesting the new Pixar movie "WALL-E", claiming that it "singles out and targets obese people as the primary cause of mankind's demise."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...de-groups.html
SSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 05:18 PM   #8
KrisPistofferson
Immoderator
 
KrisPistofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: POS Tennessee
Bikes: Gary Fisher Simple City 8, Litespeed Obed
Posts: 7,630
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
"Fat Pride?"
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bikeforums
Your rights end where another poster's feelings begin.
KrisPistofferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 05:18 PM   #9
EatMyA**
Senior Member
 
EatMyA**'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Southern California
Bikes:
Posts: 930
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Who View Post
Simple answer? It's because these are cheap and taste really, really good:

Yup. Genetics and stress bah! like my grandma always said "look at the victims of the holocaust, you didn't see a single fat one in the concentration camps." Those people were stressed and genetics or not, you dont eat, you don't grow.
EatMyA** is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 05:25 PM   #10
kuan
Twincities MN
 
kuan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Salsa, Cannondale, Surly.
Bikes:
Posts: 2,527
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Tom Stormcrowe who posts here once in awhile had bariatric surgery. I thing if you've been a healthy bmi at some point in your adult life then barring any disorders such as thyroid problems, then you should be able to get back to what you once were, or at least close. If you were an overweight kid who grew into an overweight adult then it's a little more difficult.
__________________
www.marrow.org
kuan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 05:28 PM   #11
Velo Fellow
Senior Member
 
Velo Fellow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 348
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSP View Post
In other news, "fat acceptance" activists in Britain have been protesting the new Pixar movie "WALL-E", claiming that it "singles out and targets obese people as the primary cause of mankind's demise."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...de-groups.html

IOW, better to stay semi-consciously cow-like passive in a gravity chair. The theater crowd around me joined me in cheering when "The Captain" struggles to take action against adversity by actually walking, and later actively saving the planet. Fatness was only a token of their utopian passivity.

We might conclude the general public isn't so much biased against fatties as they approve anyone who asserts themselves for the sake of good. Of course, if you believe blubber is good......
Velo Fellow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 06:01 PM   #12
Nickel
Splicer of Molecules
 
Nickel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: A less cold place
Bikes: Giant
Posts: 1,723
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
There is little to no nutritional science taught at any stage. I'd guess most people aren't overweight because of greasy burgers but because of 100 Calorie snack packs.
Nickel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 07:23 PM   #13
UmneyDurak
RacingBear
 
UmneyDurak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NorCal
Bikes:
Posts: 8,602
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickel View Post
There is little to no nutritional science taught at any stage. I'd guess most people aren't overweight because of greasy burgers but because of 100 Calorie snack packs.
You know, you might be on to something. When I started to track my diet it's those "snacks" that seemed to push me from burning to access.
UmneyDurak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 08:28 PM   #14
C_Heath
Its Freakin HammerTime!!!
 
C_Heath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Off the back @ 188 BPM's
Bikes: 2008 Felt F3 :)
Posts: 2,320
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
fat is were its at!

C_Heath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-08, 09:51 PM   #15
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT
Posts: 28,387
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Who View Post
Simple answer? It's because these are cheap and taste really, really good:

I think those taste like ass. Although I admit that at one point in my life, I did think they tasted pretty good. Once you start eating well, its easy to recognize the crap for what it is.
umd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 09:22 AM   #16
Roody
Sophomoric Member
 
Roody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dancing in Lansing
Bikes:
Posts: 23,717
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 288 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by umd View Post
I think those taste like ass. Although I admit that at one point in my life, I did think they tasted pretty good. Once you start eating well, its easy to recognize the crap for what it is.
Smug elitism. I've been "eating well" for many years, and a good burger still tastes heavenly--even one from McDonalds.

I suppose some people would enjoy a burger only if it was grass-finished minced beef with raw-milk imported cheeses on a hand-crafted artisanal whole-grain sesame seed bun.

(The fact that I even know these words is humiliating!)

__________________

"Think Outside the Cage"
Roody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 12:13 PM   #17
kuan
Twincities MN
 
kuan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Salsa, Cannondale, Surly.
Bikes:
Posts: 2,527
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roody View Post
Smug elitism. I've been "eating well" for many years, and a good burger still tastes heavenly--even one from McDonalds.

I suppose some people would enjoy a burger only if it was grass-finished minced beef with raw-milk imported cheeses on a hand-crafted artisanal whole-grain sesame seed bun.

(The fact that I even know these words is humiliating!)

Shows how muc you know. You forgot cave aged, organic, ancient grain, shade grown.
__________________
www.marrow.org
kuan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 02:38 PM   #18
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT
Posts: 28,387
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roody View Post
Smug elitism. I've been "eating well" for many years, and a good burger still tastes heavenly--even one from McDonalds.
Call it want you want, but to me, they are gross. I've lost the taste for greasy & fat-laden foods in general, but hamburgers specifically.
umd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 03:02 PM   #19
SSP
Software for Cyclists
Thread Starter
 
SSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redding, California
Bikes: Trek 5200, Specialized MTB
Posts: 4,618
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by umd View Post
Call it want you want, but to me, they are gross. I've lost the taste for greasy & fat-laden foods in general, but hamburgers specifically.
+1.

I hardly ever eat meat these days - most of my protein comes from fish, chicken, and whey protein. I can't recall the last time I had a greaseburger, and doubt I'll ever consume another burger from McDonald's (or any of the other fat-food chains).
SSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 05:06 PM   #20
J.W.
Senior Member
 
J.W.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West..
Bikes:
Posts: 460
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Because people are stupid. Personally i dont care, if you are dumb enough to eat yourself to death....you wont be missed.
J.W. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 05:31 PM   #21
The_Spaniard
Senior Member
 
The_Spaniard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes: Lemond Zurich
Posts: 249
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i think naafa is a joke and that whole stress causing obesity, i mean maybe it can affect it a little but a lack of motivation and control is the biggest reasons in my opinion. I eat pretty well for my young age, specially since i have really fast metabolism but i still have to get a burger from carls jr. ounve in awhile, there just so good heh.
The_Spaniard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 05:34 PM   #22
Velo Fellow
Senior Member
 
Velo Fellow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 348
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.W. View Post
Because people are stupid. Personally i dont care, if you are dumb enough to eat yourself to death....you wont be missed.
Happily, you won't die of an excess of compassion or empathy.
Velo Fellow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 07:24 PM   #23
Nickel
Splicer of Molecules
 
Nickel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: A less cold place
Bikes: Giant
Posts: 1,723
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.W. View Post
Because people are stupid. Personally i dont care, if you are dumb enough to eat yourself to death....you wont be missed.

Yaw, stupid people that can only afford cheap food....which happens to be the unhealthiest stuff available.
Nickel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 10:00 PM   #24
Roody
Sophomoric Member
 
Roody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dancing in Lansing
Bikes:
Posts: 23,717
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 288 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickel View Post
Yaw, stupid people that can only afford cheap food....which happens to be the unhealthiest stuff available.
Some of the healthiest food is cheap. Beans, rice, cabbage, potatoes, onions, garlic, oatmeal, bananas, nuts, carrots, squash, yams, tuna, sardines.... I could go on and on, but you get the idea.
__________________

"Think Outside the Cage"
Roody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 10:03 PM   #25
Roody
Sophomoric Member
 
Roody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dancing in Lansing
Bikes:
Posts: 23,717
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 288 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSP View Post
+1.

I hardly ever eat meat these days - most of my protein comes from fish, chicken, and whey protein. I can't recall the last time I had a greaseburger, and doubt I'll ever consume another burger from McDonald's (or any of the other fat-food chains)
.

I don't care how pure you are, a hamburger a week ain't gonna kill you. And if you think a burger tastes gross, you are far out of the mainstream of American politics.
__________________

"Think Outside the Cage"
Roody is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:20 PM.