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Old 08-26-08, 08:47 AM   #1
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Protein supplement without cholesterol?

Hi,
I'm looking for a protein supplement that don't have cholesterol.
I have a cholesterol problem, and also I'm fat. I need to loose 25 Kg ~50 lbs.
Are there products like this in the market?
I intend to take it after aerobic workout of about 2hr every day.
My main reason for taking protein is for keeping my immune system intact and also take advantage of the 30 minutes protein window after the workout.
The goal is loosing weight, but keep going everyday, and not feel every few days heavy and ill.
I have tried for few days drinking 1/2 liter low fat milk with sugar after workout, but it upset my stomach, so I will stop that. But I can say that it did help, and I felt very good after the workout.
I don't know if I'm lactose intolerance, because I did drink milk without problem, but not 500ml at one time

Your help and opinions are welcomed and appreciated.
Thanks,
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Old 08-26-08, 01:46 PM   #2
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After doing some searching on the net, I found that what I'm looking for is:
Whey protein isolate and hydrolyzed.
Isolate is the purification of the protein, so the fat goes down and also the lactose.
Hydrolyzed is doing a little of digestion of the protein, which make absorption better.
Now the problem is, that some companies say that the product does not contain cholesterol and some do but less then 5mg.
So I find it hard to believe that the no cholesterol is actually NO cholesterol. This because I know that in some countries if you have less then, lets say 0.5% of something, you can ignore it or write 0.
Also it looks like the products that say 0 cholesterol are of some unknown company, and Optimum Nutrition, which I consider respectable company (from reading forums), don't have 0 Cholesterol product.
What do you think?

Here are some links to products I found:

Dymatize ISO-100 - 0 Cholesterol


Optimum Nutrition 100 Natural Whey Gold Standard - 30mg Cholesterol


Bioplex Pure WPI - 0 Cholesterol
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Optimum Nutrition is probably the best out there. I have been taking their supps. for a while now (weight lifting) and am very pleased with the results. If i were you i would also do some resistance training (weight lifting).
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Who told you that you shouldn't consume cholesterol if you have a "cholesterol problem" (in theory they mean elevated cholesterol) and what is your cholesterol level anyway?

OK, this is a controversial subject but even the mainstream scientific community KNOWS that the consumption of cholesterol has NOTHING to do with your blood cholesterol level. This is just an unchallenged scientific FACT. So, who has told you that you shouldn't be consuming cholesterol? If its your doctor find another one, FAST!

Also there is no such thing as a blood cholesterol level anyway. Seriously, cholesterol is insoluble in blood and travels around your blood stream inside a Lipoprotein. When they are talking about your "cholesterol" level they really mean your triglyceride levels.

Anyway see, http://www.thincs.org/Malcolm.choltheory.htm for what you NEED to know on the subject.

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Only animal products have cholesterol. Plant-based proteins from nuts and beans do not. Soy is available in a number of forms such as powder and tofu. Also try canned beans. I like garbanzo beans (chick peas) because they digest well for me and taste good on their own or with various sauces.
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Hi,
I'm looking for a protein supplement that don't have cholesterol.
I have a cholesterol problem, and also I'm fat. I need to loose 25 Kg ~50 lbs.
Are there products like this in the market?
I intend to take it after aerobic workout of about 2hr every day.
My main reason for taking protein is for keeping my immune system intact and also take advantage of the 30 minutes protein window after the workout.
The goal is loosing weight, but keep going everyday, and not feel every few days heavy and ill.
I have tried for few days drinking 1/2 liter low fat milk with sugar after workout, but it upset my stomach, so I will stop that. But I can say that it did help, and I felt very good after the workout.
I don't know if I'm lactose intolerance, because I did drink milk without problem, but not 500ml at one time

Your help and opinions are welcomed and appreciated.
Thanks,
Kfir
I really really like endurox as an after workout recovery drink. Chocolate.
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Who told you that you shouldn't consume cholesterol if you have a "cholesterol problem" (in theory they mean elevated cholesterol) and what is your cholesterol level anyway?

OK, this is a controversial subject but even the mainstream scientific community KNOWS that the consumption of cholesterol has NOTHING to do with your blood cholesterol level. This is just an unchallenged scientific FACT. So, who has told you that you shouldn't be consuming cholesterol? If its your doctor find another one, FAST!

Also there is no such thing as a blood cholesterol level anyway. Seriously, cholesterol is insoluble in blood and travels around your blood stream inside a Lipoprotein. When they are talking about your "cholesterol" level they really mean your triglyceride levels.

Anyway see, http://www.thincs.org/Malcolm.choltheory.htm for what you NEED to know on the subject.

Regards, Anthony
I will need more time to read this article. It is interesting.
One thing I don't understand is why the author Malcolm Choltheory stopped writing in 2005?!
Are there more research articles to contradict his believe?

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I will need more time to read this article. It is interesting.
One thing I don't understand is why the author Malcolm Choltheory stopped writing in 2005?!
Are there more research articles to contradict his believe?

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Well the scientific facts are the scientific facts. Malcolm Kendrick is his name. The trouble is that the scientific facts don't explain where the world is at with the dominance of the cholesterol theory despite the lack of evidence to support it. I'm totally of the opinion that after 50 years of research and billions of dollars spent in the search that they should have come up with the definitive evidence by now if it was to be found.

If it quacks like a duck then its likely to be a duck. In this case its quacking like a faith. My two bobs worth is that people tell us that cholesterol is harmful TRUELY believing that it is but everyone is just too proud to admit to a mistake. To openly admit to a mistake is to put a huge dent in the faith the public places in you and that's a price no one wants to pay just yet. Worse still the public WANTS to place faith in "scientists" so despite the fact that this sort of evidence has been leaking out for years no one WANTS to believe it anyway.

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Well the scientific facts are the scientific facts. Malcolm Kendrick is his name. The trouble is that the scientific facts don't explain where the world is at with the dominance of the cholesterol theory despite the lack of evidence to support it. I'm totally of the opinion that after 50 years of research and billions of dollars spent in the search that they should have come up with the definitive evidence by now if it was to be found.

If it quacks like a duck then its likely to be a duck. In this case its quacking like a faith. My two bobs worth is that people tell us that cholesterol is harmful TRUELY believing that it is but everyone is just too proud to admit to a mistake. To openly admit to a mistake is to put a huge dent in the faith the public places in you and that's a price no one wants to pay just yet. Worse still the public WANTS to place faith in "scientists" so despite the fact that this sort of evidence has been leaking out for years no one WANTS to believe it anyway.

Regards, Anthony
I finished reading the article and I find it interesting. I'm with you about the 50 years of research.
One thing I felt at the end of the article is that he didn't gave some leads on the things that are looking as a good place to start studying the statin good effect. I guess he doesn't know ether.
6 years have passed since this article was published. I wonder if there are some research articles that do advance to new territory, or show he is right.
Thanks for pointing this website.

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For more articles go to the home page. Thats a whole website full of different scientists and researchers challenging the cholesterol myth. I think that Malcolm Kendricks article really clinically assesses the evidence and science that exists.

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