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    massive school load, but still want to race

    I enrolled in 15 hours this semester, and just couldn't handle it. i already quit my job, and went inactive in all clubs. I HAVE to pass this semester, or i will be in college for 6 years with only 25 hours left to graduate.

    if anyone is a chemist- im currently taking pchem 2, along with the writing intensive lab, and 10 other hours of general classes.

    I want to race at least 2 or 3 races this year, but just can barely find time to ride. my weekends are consumed by lab reports and catching up, weeks are consumed by class and studying.

    what is the best use of a 2 hour block in the morning? i can't really do much more than that (until the sun comes up), but at this time last year i was riding 150+ miles a week, about 90 of that in just commuting. should i focus on intervals, pound out on hills, or just ride till it hurts? im working on a dietary plan with my friend, a dietitian.

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    in the march/ april edition of Road Bike Action

    this question was answered the author mention the wingate study in which subjects who were relatively untrained did 30second sprints at 80% of their V02max and improved their capacity

    he also said if you can get out and ride hard twice a week it is a lot better than say spinning for 2 hours

    I'd say a couple of interval sessions a week will help

    also I'll take heat for this but if you have to give up a season of racing for your education do it... we all love biking but an education lasts a life time it's only one race season... sure it might matter if you were going pro but I doubt you'd be asking this if you were

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    I took 16 hrs last semester with PChem Measurements lab (10+ hours of work for the lab out of the actual lab period) and wasn't racing, but had time to do some pretty good volume weeks (like some 15+ hr). I also run my club (needless to say, team kits fell a little behind schedule). But, I feel for you. PChem measurements lab is a PITA, as was PChem 2 Lecture. My advice is to wake up early (sounds like you are already on track) and ride the rollers or trainer. Do some structured workouts (leg speed, power, strength, AT/LT, tempo, etc.) on the roller and trainer (that way you don't have to kit all the way up which takes time) so it isn't so boring and watch some good DVDs. Stick to increasing your intensity, but don't burn out on that stuff. Then, plan your races strategically such that you can sorta build in fitness over the three. If you get some good 1-2 hr rides in in the mornings as you say you can, adrenaline will make up for the rest of the mileage in longer road races.

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    Your priority is your education. There are races throughout the summer. There will be races next year, and in the many years after you graduate.

    Don't lower your career trajectory by ruining your GPA because you want to do 2-3 races!

    Hell, don't lower your career trajectory for bike racing at all!

    That said, if you have two hours every day to workout, ride SST/Tempo and hit harder intervals after the semester ends and when you pick out a few July/August races to tackle.

    Good luck & stay focused on what is important!
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    Quote Originally Posted by droptop View Post
    I enrolled in 15 hours this semester, and just couldn't handle it. i already quit my job, and went inactive in all clubs. I HAVE to pass this semester, or i will be in college for 6 years with only 25 hours left to graduate.
    15 hours is a normal school load, not a massive school load.


    Quote Originally Posted by Smallguy View Post
    also I'll take heat for this but if you have to give up a season of racing for your education do it... we all love biking but an education lasts a life time it's only one race season... sure it might matter if you were going pro but I doubt you'd be asking this if you were
    +1

    I had to ease up on my long distance cycling the last couple years because I've been doing 15 hours a week of school + 16 hours a week of work + anywhere from 5-8 hours a week of commuting (driving and/or walking, not cycling), and I'm currently in a 50 hour a week practicum. But I'll be finished soon, and then I can focus on my cycling again.


    Quote Originally Posted by droptop View Post
    should i focus on intervals, pound out on hills, or just ride till it hurts?
    Yes.

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    im definitley not going to give up school- school is my #1 priority now. our lab has been taking 25+ hours a week outside of class for calculations and making sure everything complies with ACS formatting. im hoping that they get shorter as i learn more, but the first one was horrid. im just trying to see what i can fit in so im not way behind the curve when i do get a break from the load.

    I have no plans of going pro- i just want to race for fun, and it would be nice to be halfway good at it. the school team is putting on a race and id like it to be my first one- and not totally embarass myself.

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    You will look back at this period as having a fair amount of leisure time, so make the best of it and ride. The riding will help clear your head and help you sleep better. Practice time management as well. It will help you when you have to juggle a profession, a family, and your sport.

    If it is any consolation, I took 21 credits my last semester so that I could graduate. I had come back from having mono and working two jobs. I quit them both, took a loan and buckled down.

    P.S. I know p-chem is a b*%ch
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    I know how you feel, I'm in my final of physics.. I make my revision breaks gym sessions. Our library is next door to the gym so I basically live at uni. Take all the food you will need in with you so you dont waste time. I find saving easier work for after the gym helps as my concentration is always a little pathetic for a while after I have been.

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    I am taking 22 college credits, work 30 hours, and cycle 30 miles a day. =]
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    Quote Originally Posted by droptop View Post
    I enrolled in 15 hours this semester, and just couldn't handle it. i already quit my job, and went inactive in all clubs. I HAVE to pass this semester, or i will be in college for 6 years with only 25 hours left to graduate.

    if anyone is a chemist- im currently taking pchem 2, along with the writing intensive lab, and 10 other hours of general classes.

    I want to race at least 2 or 3 races this year, but just can barely find time to ride. my weekends are consumed by lab reports and catching up, weeks are consumed by class and studying.

    what is the best use of a 2 hour block in the morning? i can't really do much more than that (until the sun comes up), but at this time last year i was riding 150+ miles a week, about 90 of that in just commuting. should i focus on intervals, pound out on hills, or just ride till it hurts? im working on a dietary plan with my friend, a dietitian.
    Put your education first before anything. I assume you already understand that, since you did ask us for advice.

    If you want to use those 2 hours for training, intervals are your best bet. A set of 3x10s will definitely help improve your AT and FTP over time, as well as some sprint work. Make sure that you eat well afterwards, or you might be very tired for the rest of the day.

    I don't exercise in the mornings, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask advice from. I do commute and carry 15 credit hours as well (all core classes), so I'm facing the same issue.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machka View Post
    15 hours is a normal school load, not a massive school load.




    +1

    I had to ease up on my long distance cycling the last couple years because I've been doing 15 hours a week of school + 16 hours a week of work + anywhere from 5-8 hours a week of commuting (driving and/or walking, not cycling), and I'm currently in a 50 hour a week practicum. But I'll be finished soon, and then I can focus on my cycling again.




    Yes.
    15 credits is massive if all of them are intense science- or math-oriented classes. I've been taking 15 credits a semester since about 2nd term (with some exceptions where I took 19), and it's been non-stop pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VA_Esquire View Post
    I am taking 22 college credits, work 30 hours, and cycle 30 miles a day. =]

    I don't know how the credit system works for you, but I don't know anyone working more than five hours a week, who a) isn't doing an easier degree b) isn't failing

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    I know how you feel. I am a biology major, 16 hour course load. I was in great shape my first two and 1/2 years of college, but now I have to sacrifice cycling for studying time if I am going to go to Med school . Train and Race during the summer, study and keep your grades up.

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    I's comparing "credits" or "units" or "hours" between schools like comparing average speeds between Florida, Colorado, and California? I.e. meaningless?

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    not really, they relate to how many hours of official class you have each week, But the types of classes can make a big difference, I had 18 credits of finance classes last semester and was swamped with work, now I'm taking 15 credits that don't really have any work outside of class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian416 View Post
    not really, they relate to how many hours of official class you have each week, But the types of classes can make a big difference, I had 18 credits of finance classes last semester and was swamped with work, now I'm taking 15 credits that don't really have any work outside of class.
    That was kind of my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philip041 View Post
    I don't know how the credit system works for you, but I don't know anyone working more than five hours a week, who a) isn't doing an easier degree b) isn't failing
    I know one guy. He's taking 25 credits this semester, holds TWO (count 'em) full-time jobs, both corporate-level, runs our school's cycling team and is studying Computer Engineering. Don't ask me how, but he's holding a 3.5+ GPA right now. I do know that he hardly ever sleeps.

    As for me, I'm enjoying the occasional, but very healthily painful load of 15 credits, an occasional side job and 5-7 hours of sleep about every day, plus time to sleep it in on the weekends. My GPA isn't as good, but it's good enough to possibly get close to or over a 3.0 by graduation (next year) and hopefully secure a pretty good job. Works for me!

    Speaking of which, OP, did you make a decision?
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