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Extermely high metbolism
I’m a pretty thin guy and have had trouble keep weight on my entire life. I currently ride 20-30 fast miles almost every day. Here’s the problem:
Even if I eat a decent meal before hand, I get weak and feel almost starved after the rides. Light headed and a little dizzy as well.
Should I take something with me to eat during the ride? it’s not a very long distance, but I’m really pushing myself the entire way. I never feel like eating or drinking during the ride. any tips on what I should eat before, during (if necessary), and after to feel better?
Even if I eat a decent meal before hand, I get weak and feel almost starved after the rides. Light headed and a little dizzy as well.
Should I take something with me to eat during the ride? it’s not a very long distance, but I’m really pushing myself the entire way. I never feel like eating or drinking during the ride. any tips on what I should eat before, during (if necessary), and after to feel better?
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Originally Posted by timmhaan
I’m a pretty thin guy and have had trouble keep weight on my entire life. I currently ride 20-30 fast miles almost every day. Here’s the problem:
Even if I eat a decent meal before hand, I get weak and feel almost starved after the rides. Light headed and a little dizzy as well.
Should I take something with me to eat during the ride? it’s not a very long distance, but I’m really pushing myself the entire way. I never feel like eating or drinking during the ride. any tips on what I should eat before, during (if necessary), and after to feel better?
Even if I eat a decent meal before hand, I get weak and feel almost starved after the rides. Light headed and a little dizzy as well.
Should I take something with me to eat during the ride? it’s not a very long distance, but I’m really pushing myself the entire way. I never feel like eating or drinking during the ride. any tips on what I should eat before, during (if necessary), and after to feel better?
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Originally Posted by timmhaan
I’m a pretty thin guy and have had trouble keep weight on my entire life. I currently ride 20-30 fast miles almost every day. Here’s the problem:
Even if I eat a decent meal before hand, I get weak and feel almost starved after the rides. Light headed and a little dizzy as well.
Should I take something with me to eat during the ride? it’s not a very long distance, but I’m really pushing myself the entire way. I never feel like eating or drinking during the ride. any tips on what I should eat before, during (if necessary), and after to feel better?
Even if I eat a decent meal before hand, I get weak and feel almost starved after the rides. Light headed and a little dizzy as well.
Should I take something with me to eat during the ride? it’s not a very long distance, but I’m really pushing myself the entire way. I never feel like eating or drinking during the ride. any tips on what I should eat before, during (if necessary), and after to feel better?
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Originally Posted by seely
I somewhat have the same problem... you probably have very low blood pressure, and are relatively tall I am guessing, especially in proportion to your body weight. I used to have it where I would stand up and black out for a second at times if I hadn't eaten recently or stood up too fast. Anyways some things I did that helped on rides were to run a 50/50 water/gatorade/cytomax mix to replenish some carbs and calories. Also I carry some bananas, Clif Bars, granola bars, etc. I used to eat extremely healthy too, and found out I was actually eating too healthy most likely so now I try to eat more saturated fat (since i was eating virtually none) and I managed to gain about 10lbs (6'1 155lbs now) which has helped some. I can't remember all my dr. recommended but if I think of anything else I will post back.
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Do you eat something right AFTER your rides? According to the late Ed Burke, it's important to get both carbs and proteins on board shortly after any hard training. The carbs help restore your glyocogen reserves, and the protein helps with muscle recovery/rebuilding.
Some folks use Endurox R4 after rides, but I think it tastes awful (and, it's bloody expensive), so I usually mix up some vanilla-flavored protein powder with 12 oz of orange juice instead.
Some folks use Endurox R4 after rides, but I think it tastes awful (and, it's bloody expensive), so I usually mix up some vanilla-flavored protein powder with 12 oz of orange juice instead.
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As far as recovery after exercise, this is what I've been told by one of the instructors at my gym:
The ideal ratio of carbs to protein to consume immediately post workout is 1.5g carbs to 1g protein. Whatever you take should be as low in fat as possible, to allow it to digest quickly. In about 45 min you can have a "real" meal.
What I find works best is skim milk. It has that magic ratio, and has almost no fat! Tastes like crap though.. but I'm willing to sacrifice that if it helps my body recover better.
The ideal ratio of carbs to protein to consume immediately post workout is 1.5g carbs to 1g protein. Whatever you take should be as low in fat as possible, to allow it to digest quickly. In about 45 min you can have a "real" meal.
What I find works best is skim milk. It has that magic ratio, and has almost no fat! Tastes like crap though.. but I'm willing to sacrifice that if it helps my body recover better.
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Originally Posted by DMulyava
What I find works best is skim milk. It has that magic ratio, and has almost no fat! Tastes like crap though.. but I'm willing to sacrifice that if it helps my body recover better.
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Not knowing what the age is here but metabolism will change with age. Trust me I was in the same boat 4 years ago. Now though at 37 that has all changed. I was 6'1" at 165 to 170ibs. Now I am 62 and 205 and it is not coming off. I am not fat by no means it is just a age thing it caught me.
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Just read The Zone Diet by Dr. Barry Sears and you won't have to carry food with you when you ride. I am 46 and I can still eat all that I want thanks to The Zone Diet.
www.drsears.com
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Originally Posted by Hunter
Not knowing what the age is here but metabolism will change with age. Trust me I was in the same boat 4 years ago. Now though at 37 that has all changed. I was 6'1" at 165 to 170ibs. Now I am 62 and 205 and it is not coming off. I am not fat by no means it is just a age thing it caught me.
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Originally Posted by G-Hoch
Just read The Zone Diet by Dr. Barry Sears and you won't have to carry food with you when you ride. I am 46 and I can still eat all that I want thanks to The Zone Diet.
www.drsears.com
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Originally Posted by stapfam
Don't worry about age, Main problem is that as you get older, you get wiser, If it hurts you don't do it, if the hill is too steep, you slow down, But all this makes sense. A slower pace, but more milage will keep the weight off, but is not as enjoyable. Try going out with a bunch of 25 year olds to get the speed back up. Either that or change to longer distance rides where your change in metabolism, will show up the youngster that can't hack the distance. Going back to the original question, I carbo load daily, this does enable me to go for a 4 hour ride or 2 hours intensive gym, but there is always the problem. Is it going to be a Kebab or a curry to replace the carbs lost on the ride?
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According to the Harris-Benedict formula that estimates Basal Metabolic Rate, a 6' tall, 180 lb male who is "moderately active" would have a BMR of 3,043 calories at age 20, and a BMR of 2,726 calories at age 50. The difference is 317 calories per day. Or, to put it another way, the 50 year old's metabolic rate is 90% of the 20 year old's. While not insignificant, this is not the dramatic "decline in metabolic rate" that most people associate with aging.
A lot of the so-called decline in metabolic rate (especially in the US), is because most older folks spend a lot more time sitting on their asses than when they were in their teens and 20's.
A lot of the so-called decline in metabolic rate (especially in the US), is because most older folks spend a lot more time sitting on their asses than when they were in their teens and 20's.
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Originally Posted by SSP
According to the Harris-Benedict formula that estimates Basal Metabolic Rate, a 6' tall, 180 lb male who is "moderately active" would have a BMR of 3,043 calories at age 20, and a BMR of 2,726 calories at age 50. The difference is 317 calories per day. Or, to put it another way, the 50 year old's metabolic rate is 90% of the 20 year old's. While not insignificant, this is not the dramatic "decline in metabolic rate" that most people associate with aging.
A lot of the so-called decline in metabolic rate (especially in the US), is because most older folks spend a lot more time sitting on their asses than when they were in their teens and 20's.
A lot of the so-called decline in metabolic rate (especially in the US), is because most older folks spend a lot more time sitting on their asses than when they were in their teens and 20's.
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Well, the Harris-Benedict formula is considered one of the better predictors of basal metabolic rate. From what I've read, most of the decline in metabolic rate with age is explained by decreased muscle mass, and lessened activity levels.
If you are aware of a formula, or a published aging study, that shows a substantially different result, I'd appreciate a link to it.
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"Wonder how much ass sitting time was spent onthat (sic) software development."
Was that meant as an insult? FWIW, good software takes a significant amount of ass sitting (well over 1,000 hours for CycliStats). Fortunately, I also spend a good amount of time sitting on my bike to balance it out. And, for the record, I'm 51 myself.
If you are aware of a formula, or a published aging study, that shows a substantially different result, I'd appreciate a link to it.
re:
"Wonder how much ass sitting time was spent onthat (sic) software development."
Was that meant as an insult? FWIW, good software takes a significant amount of ass sitting (well over 1,000 hours for CycliStats). Fortunately, I also spend a good amount of time sitting on my bike to balance it out. And, for the record, I'm 51 myself.
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Forget that Zone Diet crap...if you ar eunder nourished its because you are not getting your DAILY intake. Eat frequently every 2.5 hours carb/protein. That will take car of your problem.
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Originally Posted by Hunter
He wants to put on weight by his original post he has none to diet off. The Zone diet is inadequate for weight gaining.
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well, i took some of the advice and here's what i did:
prepared pasta and chicken BEFORE the ride, that way i could just reheat it after i got back (part of the original problem is i have to bike late at night because of my schedule, so i often don't feel like cooking when i get back at 10pm).
Before i took off, i had a bananna, gronola bar, and a 50% gataorate 50% water mix. i brought a gronola bar with me and ate that after about 20 miles with the gataorate mixture. i felt much better after i got home, and didn't feel light headed at all. had another bananna while i was reheating the pasta then ate that.
seems pretty easy, so i'll keep this up for a while and see how it works long term. oh, by the way the question came up a few times: i'm a 26 yr. old male. thanks for all the input.
prepared pasta and chicken BEFORE the ride, that way i could just reheat it after i got back (part of the original problem is i have to bike late at night because of my schedule, so i often don't feel like cooking when i get back at 10pm).
Before i took off, i had a bananna, gronola bar, and a 50% gataorate 50% water mix. i brought a gronola bar with me and ate that after about 20 miles with the gataorate mixture. i felt much better after i got home, and didn't feel light headed at all. had another bananna while i was reheating the pasta then ate that.
seems pretty easy, so i'll keep this up for a while and see how it works long term. oh, by the way the question came up a few times: i'm a 26 yr. old male. thanks for all the input.