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Old 06-17-09, 11:31 AM   #1
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Pedal Float and Knee Issues.

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Currently I am having some issues with my left knee and was wondering what I could do about it. I ride two bikes, a trek hybrid with SPD pedals and a Canondale Carbon Road bike with speedplay. It seems I am having issues with my knee after riding the trek for long distances. So the question is, what is the best way to alleviate the problem, is it because of the reduced float on the SPDs? If so does anyone have a recommendation of a good pedal that will allow a recessed cleat and a decent amount of float?

Thanks for any advice.
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Hi,

Currently I am having some issues with my left knee and was wondering what I could do about it. I ride two bikes, a trek hybrid with SPD pedals and a Canondale Carbon Road bike with speedplay. It seems I am having issues with my knee after riding the trek for long distances. So the question is, what is the best way to alleviate the problem, is it because of the reduced float on the SPDs? If so does anyone have a recommendation of a good pedal that will allow a recessed cleat and a decent amount of float?

Thanks for any advice.

i ditched my spd's and switched to crank brother's candy's on my trek fx- my knee pain evaporated
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Old 06-17-09, 07:14 PM   #3
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"issue" is pretty darn generic. There's no cure all that fixes all knee pains. Could you be more specific?
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Old 06-17-09, 07:16 PM   #4
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Soreness and tenderness along the outside of the knee, right along the outside edge. It has gone away in a short time usually but seems to be getting worse as time goes by, I usually run the day after I bike and was unable to today because the shock of the pavement kept hurting the left knee.
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I'm going through the same exact problem as the OP. I recently (2 weeks ago) switched to SPD's from clips/straps (Shimano m540's and m086 shoes) and I'm experiencing pain on the outer side edge of the knee and its REALLY difficult to bend the knee. Walking down stairs is a big pain. Riding my fixed gear hurts more than riding the roadie, because I can't let me knee rest.

I'm currently in the process of trying to perfectly align the cleat onto the shoes. Being a poor college student, I don't really have 50 bucks to go and blow to have a bike shop to align it for me, so I'm doing it the trial and error way. After 2 weeks of riding with the spd's, there is less pain than before, but the injury gets agitated once again when I ride with no hands. Something about my back being completely vertical places my leg in a awkward angle and makes the knee hurt when bending

I wish I had gone with speeplays . I really feel that the SPD's don't offer enough float for me. Anyone have advice?
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is it possible the running on pavement is whats causing this? if possible, try switching to a softer surface for your runs. Or is it time for new running shoes?

Or you could change the pedals on the trek. My first set of clipless pedals was the Forte Campus from performance bike. Maybe i had them adjusted wrong, but there was always tension if they were angled slightly from the clipped in position. I installed crankbrothers eggbeaters this spring and its a night and day difference.
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the spd's might be allowing your foot to rotate outwards a bit. this can cause the kind of knee pain you describe.

solution: different pedals, perhaps an spd-platform type.
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I'm going through the same exact problem as the OP....

I'm currently in the process of trying to perfectly align the cleat onto the shoes. ... I'm doing it the trial and error way. After 2 weeks of riding with the spd's, there is less pain than before, but the injury gets agitated once again when I ride with no hands. Something about my back being completely vertical places my leg in a awkward angle and makes the knee hurt when bending

I wish I had gone with speeplays . I really feel that the SPD's don't offer enough float for me. Anyone have advice?
If you still have the pedals with the toeclips, remount them. Wearing the shoes which you use with the spds, ride for about 6-8 miles, without the straps tight - completely loose is best (if you used toeclips).

The 'cage' of the pedals with toeclips will likely leave a 'mark' across the shoe sole. Your leg will self-align during this ride and the 'mark'/line will follow the natural alignment your ankle/leg/knee/hip uses.

Now align the spd cleat bolts parallel to that 'mark'/line. It may differ a bit for each leg. This will get each leg aligned to its natural movement.

Other adjustment is fore/aft. I always suggest starting with the 'Ball-of-foot' centered over the pedal spindle, when the shoe/foot is horizontal. Moving so that the Ball-of-foot is more forward of the pedal spindle is generally ok and won;t hurt the knee, but going the opposite direction, Ball-of-foot BEHIND/rearward of the pedal spindle does put more pressure on the knee, especially when mashin gears.

Otherwise, make sure saddle height and fore/aft are set to what you do best with, before doing the pedal/cleat adjustment.

If you significantly pronate or supinate, then wedges/cants may be needed to really get you set well.

Lot of things come into play when riding no hands. Alignment of the hips and therefore the legs changes. Also, often riders splay their knees while riding no hands as part of rebalancing while riding no-hands.
hookin up with someone with considerable fit experience often helps - like a local cycling coach of good repute. They can often spot possible issues quickly.
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you might want to just try a platform pedal (no clips, cleats, etc) and see if you can ride without pain.
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