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Old 06-21-04, 04:20 PM   #1
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my grandma was right all this time...

she was a dietician and hated the 9 or 10 years i was a vegetarian. now i've been eating meat again for a year and have fewer problems with various overuse injuries.

did that BMI test today at that other thread and it told me i should be getting 127g of protein per day.

how the heck do y'all get all this protein??

i got some whey protein from Trader Joe's recently - should I be drinking shakes of that stuff like three or four times a day in addition to my regular not-very-scientific diet??

127grams seems like a lot.
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Old 06-21-04, 04:32 PM   #2
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127 grams is not that much. I take in 170-200 on a daily basis. I'm only about 145 pounds. I'm also into weights, so that kinda makes me intake more.

Good sources of protein: egg whites, milk (preferably skim or 1%), skinless boneless chicken breasts, tuna, low fat cottage cheese.

Sources of good fats that also include protein: Almonds, salmon, natural peanut butter.
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Old 06-21-04, 05:26 PM   #3
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salmon is also a good source of much needed mercury!

Yeah! A little bit of good old Hg gets the joints all flexible. Also reduces excessive brain use thus improving overall performance. Great stuff.
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she was a dietician and hated the 9 or 10 years i was a vegetarian. now i've been eating meat again for a year and have fewer problems with various overuse injuries.

did that BMI test today at that other thread and it told me i should be getting 127g of protein per day.

how the heck do y'all get all this protein??

i got some whey protein from Trader Joe's recently - should I be drinking shakes of that stuff like three or four times a day in addition to my regular not-very-scientific diet??

127grams seems like a lot.
Check this out, this site has been put together by ex-vegetarians who "saw the light"

http://www.beyondveg.com
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Old 06-22-04, 08:04 AM   #5
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man, i tried but i just can't do text-only websites. sorry
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Check this out, this site has been put together by ex-vegetarians who "saw the light"

http://www.beyondveg.com

i think people often have a mis-conceived notion of vegetarianism and alternative diets, and tend to expect a "one-size fits all" approach will work. this is especially not true if you consider yourself athletic, and therefore need to be sure to have enough protein and fat intake. you can certainly be vegetarian and highly athletic (i.e. Carl Lewis: see http://www.vegsource.com/articles/lewis_intro.htm), but it defintely takes a lot of work and commitment.

choosing to be a committed vegetarian or vegan is not for everyone, but the veg movement is much more than that. more important i think than following a strict diet is to be aware of what you put in your body, and how that affects yourself, the earth, and the other people in the world--to be mindful of the ripple effects of your personal actions, and to see the power inherent in those actions. it's important to be critical of all new fads and theories, i myself am rather critcal of the raw foods craze, but there have been numberous studies published in the New England Journal of Medicine and JAMA stating the positive health benefits of vegetarian diets, especially in relation to Type II Diabetes and Heart Disease. the popularity of diets, especially atkins, and the fact that obesity has become endemic in the States, makes vegetarianism look like a very healthy lifestyle indeed.

it looks like in this case the trouble is with not enough caloric intake, and has little to do with a vegetarian vs. meat-friendly diet.

also, just to note the creator and main writer for the site beyondveg.com (Tom Billings) is a vegetarian of 30 years, and continues to follow the diet. his criticisms seem to fall most heavily on raw foods and vegan diets.
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also, just to note the creator and main writer for the site beyondveg.com (Tom Billings) is a vegetarian of 30 years, and continues to follow the diet. his criticisms seem to fall most heavily on raw foods and vegan diets.
Yes, I think most of the criticism is directed toward the extremists, especially the fruitarians
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I tried, out of compassion for my furry 2-volt brained bretheren, a vegan diet for a few months. I felt great, all seemed well until my girlfriend noticed that my text-book ectomorphic build was withering into Bataan Death March territory. I immediately went back to eating animal products (sorry Elsie) and was rewarded with my former, umm, brutish physique.
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using a balanced vegetarian diet is perfectly acceptable for even elite endurance performance, including, e.g., the TdF, where protein requirements are the highest of *any* sport or exercise.

additionally, there is no need to take in protein supplements, assuming that your weight is either stable or being decreased gradually.

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