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    beer and wine

    I know I know, alcohol and riding don't mix to well - however, it is my crutch. I like to drink beer and wine as it just hits the spot after a long day at work. When I say drink, I don't mean in too much excess. I like to have one or two a day, pretty much every day. On my ride days, I may have one (a beer) a couple hours after the ride with food. So, just how bad is it to have one or two every day?

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    Depends on who you are. For men, 1-2 drinks most days of the week is considered the "safe" limit. At this point, you're getting health benefits from alcohol w/o significantly increasing your risk of other problems caused by it. Any more, and your risk of cancers and accidental death go up. For women, it's no more than one drink. Of course, this assumes a lot about body size and metabolism, but these are the population averages.

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    Thinking about the 1-2 drinks comment, I've been told (by my doctor, and read online) that any more than 1 oz of alcohol per night is not good. So... 8oz of wine (assuming 12% ABV), 2.5 oz of scotch (80 proof), 1-2 beers (two if they are Miller, one if it is stronger), etc.

    Although, one side-effect you may still get is from acetaldehyde, which is one of the by-products of alcohol being processed by the liver. It is what causes hangovers. You likely won't get a hangover from one drink, but acetaldehyde is a possible carcinogen... it promotes cancer. However, as this letter responding to the article where I read this points out, it is hard to escape acetaldehyde even if you abstain from alcohol...

    I like good beer... so I don't mind one a night. However, even outside of biking I really don't feel comfortable drinking 7 nights a week, just from an overall health perspective. So I try to cut back around bigger training days, or days where I had already decided to have another snack, like a bowl of ice cream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonC View Post
    Thinking about the 1-2 drinks comment, I've been told (by my doctor, and read online) that any more than 1 oz of alcohol per night is not good. So... 8oz of wine (assuming 12% ABV), 2.5 oz of scotch (80 proof), 1-2 beers (two if they are Miller, one if it is stronger), etc.

    Although, one side-effect you may still get is from acetaldehyde, which is one of the by-products of alcohol being processed by the liver. It is what causes hangovers. You likely won't get a hangover from one drink, but acetaldehyde is a possible carcinogen... it promotes cancer. However, as this letter responding to the article where I read this points out, it is hard to escape acetaldehyde even if you abstain from alcohol...

    I like good beer... so I don't mind one a night. However, even outside of biking I really don't feel comfortable drinking 7 nights a week, just from an overall health perspective. So I try to cut back around bigger training days, or days where I had already decided to have another snack, like a bowl of ice cream.

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    I think this is a great way to look at it. There is nothing wrong with having a drink or two most nights a week. Sure you get a bunch of empty calories from it, but in moderation, it's worth it for a lot of people, myself included. I try not to drink every night, I usually end up drinking one drink or occasionally two drinks about 4 nights a week. The part I was originally agreeing with was the part about treating it similarly to any other dietary treat or cheat snack. You normally wouldn't pile up on ice cream and then go out and get pizza if you are following any specific diet or training regiment. Alcohol should be treated the same way.

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    I wouldn't consider the calories in beer to be totally empty. There's actually some good stuff in there (besides the alcohol ) You've got some antioxidants and B vitamins, which would both be helpful in after ride recovery. And the hops in beer have a few medicinal properties too. Plus, after a long ride you HAVE to rehydrate. But there might be some problem with that one, because beer tends to be a diuretic. I think the Dr. that wrote the following article might like to drink a beer or three every now and then.

    http://www.aim-digest.com/gateway/pa...s/goodnews.htm

    He closes by saying:

    In conclusion Beer is a well-balanced, low-alcohol beverage with significant levels of vitamins (in particular folates), minerals and silicon. Regular, moderate beer drinking may be a part of a healthy lifestyle together with wholesome food, exercise, keeping your weight down and not smoking.

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    drink after the ride not before

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    Thanks for the replies all. I am a male so I believe I may be in moderation per some Dr.'s. Plus, I never drink before a ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercianv View Post
    drink after the ride not before
    This. I have had a friend or two go to the hospital because they exercised heavily after a few beers.

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    A glass of wine or a beer at night, really should not have a major adverse effect. It certainly is not as good as eating carrot and celery sticks. But it is probably no worse than eating a hot fudge sundae.

    Also if you do it on ride days, the significant benefits of your riding if you do any significant miles probably more than cancel out the adverse effects of the alcohol.

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    I'm speaking as someone who really enjoys a good dark ale, or a good Hefeweizen. If my Doc tells me that one a day is bad for me, I'm just going to get a new Doc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfloyd6969 View Post
    I know I know, alcohol and riding don't mix to well - however, it is my crutch. I like to drink beer and wine as it just hits the spot after a long day at work. When I say drink, I don't mean in too much excess. I like to have one or two a day, pretty much every day. On my ride days, I may have one (a beer) a couple hours after the ride with food. So, just how bad is it to have one or two every day?
    After a metric century , the club does each Sunday; we deserve one, maybe even two beers. Guilt. Never given it a second thought.
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    ^ Since January 1, 2012

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    I buy 750ml bottles of beer (can be resealed by vacuum plugs) or growlers (flip top bottle, filled at local breweries) and pour 8oz servings, one serving per session. This gives me my 'fix' for a good beer but keeps the calories low. I'm talking about a mid-week beer here... not a reward after a century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_R View Post
    I'm talking about a mid-week beer here... not a reward after a century.
    So what's your reward after a century? You've got a lot of good breweries to choose from in Portland.

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