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    High fat diet is not good for you

    but most of us already knew that . . .

    Still, good to have more corroboration:
    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/0...-and-exercise/

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    A no fat diet is just about as worthless. Good fats FTW.

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    The didn't tell us what kind of fat they used which is REALLY important. Its a scientific fact that omega 3 fats are GOOD for memory and mental performance. It sounds to me like this is a less than well conducted study which is trying to counter the good publicity fats are getting for mental performance.

    Without disclosure of the type of fat fed to the rats I suspect they deliberately used transfats which is just one of those dirty little things they do. When they claim that the high fat diet may have a negative effect on insulin levels then thats DEFINITELY the result of transfats. It is know that transfats have a negative effect in this regard hence there undesirability in our diets. Natural fats, saturated included cause NO such problems. I did read the article to try and find out what kind of fat they fed to the rats but they left that bit out. Probably quite deliberately.

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    Humans are omnivores. A balanced diet from all food sources is a good thing, imo.
    I reserve the right to be wrong at any time. :D

    Man does not live by bread alone, that's why God made ice cream.

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    Animal fat is neccessary when excersising and being active in very cold weather. This modern theory about animal fats not being healthy is just a bunch of nonsene. Without fat our bodies will not be able to metabolise protein and function properly.

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    That explains why I ride better as a vegetarian.

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    Remember the movie Supersize Me? The health of the guy doing it declined dramatically.

    Same idea.

    Your body needs fats. Of course, you can have too much of a good thing.
    That's all that's going on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by late View Post
    Remember the movie Supersize Me? The health of the guy doing it declined dramatically.

    Same idea.

    Your body needs fats. Of course, you can have too much of a good thing.
    That's all that's going on here.
    The thing about Supersize Me is that they weren't supersizing the beef patty. No, they were supersizing the fries and the soda. The fries are starch deep fried in transfatty acids and soda is well, soda. Its not like the guy got sick and fat from just eating the burgers.

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    It was a rat study but is interesting to speculate that it might apply to humans in some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse3 View Post
    It was a rat study but is interesting to speculate that it might apply to humans in some way.
    Yes, and it would be really good if they disclosed the type of fat fed to the rats. You will get NO argument from me that transfats WOULD cause those problems so to me it seems like yet more evidence that proves that transfats are harmful are being maliciously used to sully ALL fats.

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    Someone tell the Inuit and Masi people that their diets are killing them.... wait!


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    Someone tell dmoney19 that the human body is a highly adaptable machine, capable of utilizing whatever you feed it for energy...wait!
    What I want to know is what fats the rats were being fed, if they were being fed any carbs to prevent them from going into ketosis and using said fats as a dominant source of energy, and why scientists do studies regarding human nutrition on rats.

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    There is a big difference between good fats and bad fats. I would assume from the picture of the burger and fries, the rats were fed trans fats etc. Olive oil, macadamia nut oil, walnut oil, are all good fats. Your body actually needs fat to function properly. Just make sure they are from the right sources and the correct amounts for your body.
    Last edited by Keith S; 08-19-09 at 09:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse3 View Post
    It was a rat study but is interesting to speculate that it might apply to humans in some way.
    and interesting to note how it might not apply as well. rats are pretty dramatically different creatures than humans, after all, and assuming a direct transference of results often doesn't work out so hot.
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    I don't care about rats, I am a human being and I just follow a diet that works for me, I know what I have to eat to maintain strength and energy and health. MMMM... bacon grease, yummy.I don't mind animal fats, but I hate man made trans fats.

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    i did the same study on myself over a 6 year period. the results are highly contested but i sucessfully gained 90lbs, ulcers, chronic heartburn and a liver and digestive system that barely function.
    oh, and i couldnt walk up a single flight of stairs without being out of breathe.

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