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Old 11-24-09, 10:07 PM   #1
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whey protein alternatives

I know I need to increase my protein consumption. I keep seeing references to whey protein and frankly stand at the store (even Costco) with my mouth agape at the freakin price!

How about eggs as an alternative? They also have the cholesterol our bodies need to rebuild hormones and cell membranes. The biggest issue I have with eggs is I am tired of eating! especially eggs. Just have eaten so many that I am tired of them.

What other alternatives exist? preferably lower cost. You know, like chocolate milk instead of specially formulated post-workout recovery drinks.

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Old 11-24-09, 11:09 PM   #2
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Low fat cottage cheese is hard to beat. Can of Tuna and chicken also mixed with hard boil eggs.
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Greek yogurt, liver (tons of protein and iron tastes good too), farmers cheese (tvorog), chicken breast, pork tenderloin, salmon, tilapia, buckwheat. Honestly list goes on and on. There are ton's of protein sources out there.
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Shop online. I use bodybuilding.com and Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey. 5 lbs. = $42, IIRC. I calculate that size of whey protein to be equal to 23 lbs. of steak. Remember, no water or fat in the whey protein, just protein. So it's actually cheaper and quite a lot better for you in many ways. It's missing B12 and iron, of course, but you don't have to eat only whey protein! If you live in a benighted state with sales tax, like I do, the shipping will be less than the tax. I've only tried the chocolate and vanilla ice cream flavors, and like them both.
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Shop online. I use bodybuilding.com and Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey. 5 lbs. = $42, IIRC. I calculate that size of whey protein to be equal to 23 lbs. of steak. Remember, no water or fat in the whey protein, just protein. So it's actually cheaper and quite a lot better for you in many ways. It's missing B12 and iron, of course, but you don't have to eat only whey protein! If you live in a benighted state with sales tax, like I do, the shipping will be less than the tax. I've only tried the chocolate and vanilla ice cream flavors, and like them both.
This.

www.mysupplementstore.com as well. ON 100% is good stuff. Strawberry and banana are both basically a TREAT when mixed with milk. Hit up Cash N Carry for some Da Vinci sugar free syrups if you want to flavor it up more. I believe the calculation is 27 grams of protein for 40-50 cents. Somewhere abouts.

EDIT: By the way, Costco's WHEY is NASTAY.
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Drink the eggs. I drink 8-10 raw eggs every day. I usually have 8 egg whites and 2 whole eggs with breakfast. It fast, easy, and fairly cheap. I do 4 at a time and add a splash of apple juice. Juice makes it very easy to do. Back when I was powerlifting I used to drink 20 a day. You have as much chance of getting salmonella as you do winning the lottery.

Another thing to try is cook your food in mass amounts on Sunday and store it in tupperware. I will make up to 9 chicken breast and a turkey breast on Sunday. This will last me the whole week. My total prep time cooking is about 10-15 minutes and you have protein for the week. Then of course you can grill steaks and lean beef has the same fat/ protein ratio as chicken. Plus beef contains more vitamins and minerals.
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Since you have a Costco membership take a look at their Kirkland version of Egg Beaters. Like Egg Beaters they are made from whites only, so really just protein and water, keep well and if you want cholesterol, add butter.

I use some whey protein, but not a lot. I usually keep a 2 lb can of Body Fortress around that always seems to be on sale at Walmart for $11.
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This.

www.mysupplementstore.com as well. ON 100% is good stuff. Strawberry and banana are both basically a TREAT when mixed with milk. Hit up Cash N Carry for some Da Vinci sugar free syrups if you want to flavor it up more. I believe the calculation is 27 grams of protein for 40-50 cents. Somewhere abouts.

EDIT: By the way, Costco's WHEY is NASTAY.
You ever try their Novus 10 lb. concentrate? I realize it's unflavored, but as you say, that can be cured.
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Go to any health food store and buy soy protein isolate from the bulk bins.
Blend it into any smoothie.
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How about stop listening to the recommendations and not get a protien supplement. You don't need it
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How about stop listening to the recommendations and not get a protien supplement. You don't need it
Is that a recommendation?
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Is that a recommendation?
And in this case, the recommendations were requested by the OP and not just general discussion banter.
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How about stop listening to the recommendations and not get a protien supplement. You don't need it
Ignoring what should be obvious (that you don't know my diet, daily living, or exercise regimen), how can you make such a blanket statement? Especially without any data to back it up? As a medically trained biologist, I am able to understand just about any level of scientific research you care to provide to support your position.

I asked for alternatives as I know I need additional protein in my diet.

for the others -- thanks for the suggestions. Being tired of cooking AND eating really makes providing the body what it needs to recover difficult. I'll be incorporating many of your ideas. Though I'm not sure about homemade kefir. Got to look into that one.
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Ignoring what should be obvious (that you don't know my diet, daily living, or exercise regimen), how can you make such a blanket statement? Especially without any data to back it up? As a medically trained biologist, I am able to understand just about any level of scientific research you care to provide to support your position.
Protien powders are a scam, if you eat a standard american diet(or any type of socalled balanced diet) you get more then enough protein. All the protein powder does is put excess burden on your sysyem and drains your cash. You sound like a smart guy being a "medically trained biologist" the info should be easy for you to find to support this.


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I asked for alternatives as I know I need additional protein in my diet.
How do you know? Did your body say please give me excess protein?

just an fyi whey protien is primarily casien which happens to be one of the most cancer forming proteins out there


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The Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) of protein according to U.S. government standards is 0.8 gram per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of ideal body weight for the adult. This protein RDA is said to meet 97.5% of the population's needs.


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The US RDA protein diet standards may be overestimated. The WHO Organization more conservatively puts our dietary protein needs at about half of the U.S. government minimum levels, or 0.45 grams of protein per kilogram of ideal body weight.


http://www.annecollins.com/protein-diet.htm

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just an fyi whey protien is primarily casien which happens to be one of the most cancer forming proteins out there

Sigh, the casein protein is in the cheese curd that was made. The watery whey fraction is what’s left over after the curd is removed.
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Having a really bad day. I wrote a well thought out 2 paragraphs, clicked on the "Post Quick Reply", and my post disappeared. So here's the short of it. For economy, quickness to make, and more healthy (no evils such as artifical sweeteners. Yes, Splenda is bad for you), to to BulkFoods.com You're a biologist and should know that no one will take the time to give yoiu research on these short threads) Soy protein is almost as good as whey. It took me several days of camparative shopping to find natural protein at the cheapest price per lb.
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Sigh, the casein protein is in the cheese curd that was made. The watery whey fraction is what’s left over after the curd is removed.
my bad, that was an oversight on my part.
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Having a really bad day. I wrote a well thought out 2 paragraphs, clicked on the "Post Quick Reply", and my post disappeared. So here's the short of it. For economy, quickness to make, and more healthy (no evils such as artifical sweeteners. Yes, Splenda is bad for you), to to BulkFoods.com You're a biologist and should know that no one will take the time to give yoiu research on these short threads) Soy protein is almost as good as whey. It took me several days of camparative shopping to find natural protein at the cheapest price per lb.
I only asked for research due to the blanket statement made. This thread is only seeking alternatives to whey protein. (this protein is what remains after the water is removed once the curds are made. And yes, I recognize this is actually casein. But for simplicity, I stated as it is commonly called at the store).

How much protein is needed varies per individual. My recovery recovery times, coupled with changes in my dietary habits, and the cravings my body is having, tells me I need more protein in my diet.

Hemprider, I could not find qualifications on Anne Collins. Just looking at her information on triglycerides, I find contradictions.
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Skim milk. Around here you can find protein fortified milk, and I use that. 10gr in 8oz, you ought to have it
where you are.

This stuff is 4 bucks a pound and the box will last you a long, long time.
http://proteinfactory.com/shop/produ...7&cat=0&page=1

You can find reduced fat and nonfat cheese. You can find high protein pasta. Combine
the two for a low fat mac and cheese with a lot of protein.

Lentils have a lot of nutrition in them. In a couple minutes I'm going to make lentil,sausage and mushroom soup.

Look for 93% hamburger.

Tuna, you can whip up a tuna sandwich in about a minute. I use
Hellman's Lowfat mayo.

Chicken thighs are a cheap alternative to recipes that call for chicken breasts.

Find wheat gluten in the baking section. It is pure wheat protein. A tablespoon
in a dish will improve the protein quality of the dish. It needs to be cooked. Seitan is
made from gluten and can be dropped into a dish without more cooking. Gluten is
great stuff. You can also add it to bread mixes, pancakes, that sort of thing.

Eggbeaters. You can combine a couple eggs with similar amount of eggbeaters and presto, big protein.

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Fruit and Vegatables and lots of it!
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I didn't read the entire thread, so if this is repeated, sorry.


Real food is a good source of protein.
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I didn't read the entire thread, so if this is repeated, sorry.


Real food is a good source of protein.
So are protein shakes. What's your point?
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OP...you asked for alternatives to Whey Protein. Are you looking strictly for powders? There's plenty of other protein powders available, including milk, egg, and soy, or combinations. Or did you strictly mean food alternatives?
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So are protein shakes. What's your point?
Yeah it is, but they're a pretty bad alternative to protein shakes.
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Yeah it is, but they're a pretty bad alternative to protein shakes.
Protein shakes are a bad alternative to protein shakes?
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