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Old 02-25-10, 02:51 AM   #1
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Low point of life.

I joined this forum because I wanted to bike into shape. Right now I am in Homer Simpson shape and I hope I can get that off.

Well the low point came last week. I fried some pizza. Yes I fried some pizza. Looking back at that it was one of the greatest things I have ever eaten. But something that I should have never put in my gut.

So now I know I need to get into better shape. I use to freaking play Rugby. Now I can not even jog for a few seconds with out getting winded.

I am going to do a race in june (small) but that will get me the motivation to go. And do it.

Also I have a theme. Call Think Green. As in Green salad and stuff. I ordering a green helmet and everything I know that sounds silly but it would help me remember what I am riding for.
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With no injuries, you are fine. Bodies in motion stay in motion. Those at rest stay at rest. (hey, I just made that up) Your muscle memory will kick in as your competitive juices... just do it (again, I just made that up)
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Low carb diets like South Beach Diet are pretty good for toning up a Homer Simpson physique. If you want some structure behind your salad diet, try looking into SBD.
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Good for you! A lot of people would take a different path when faced with that decision. Some of us have been there and haven't looked back. Keep coming back, keep asking questions and keep riding.
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I use Ride & Reward.
I pick something I really want to eat (double bacon cheeseburger, Chicken Fried Steak, etc) then set a goal...
Say, for the cheeseburger I'll say after at least a 50 mile ride..

There is a place not too far away that serves fried bacon. Maybe after the next 200k.

I don't do this after every long ride, but I think it helps me keep my cravings in check.

Cut out the soft drinks, order rice instead of fries. Small changes at first.

Now I'm trying to figure out how I'd need to ride for fried pizza...yumm...
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I disagree about low carb diets. You can lose weight by riding and cleaning up your diet. It may not be as fast, but it's healthier. It's tough to ride much on a low carb diet. So you'd have to lose weight now and wait till later to do much riding. That will make it take longer to get into riding shape.
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Find whatever it is that keeps bike riding fun and focus on that. Just keep having fun and the benefits will find their way to you. Good luck!
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My ex-husband's family had a favourite desert. They baked cinnamon rolls - huge ones, probably 5" across and absolutely loaded with sugar, cinnamon, and raisins and things. But that wasn't enough. They took those cinnamon rolls, and deep fried them until they were almost soggy with grease, and then drowned them in icing.

I have only ever had one of those things ... but even though something like 15 years has passed since then, I'm sure my body is still trying to clear out my arteries from that!! I have to say, however, it tasted GREAT!!

Get out and ride!! Burn off the calories from that fried pizza!! I got into long distance cycling soon after eating that cinnamon roll monstrosity.
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I disagree about low carb diets. You can lose weight by riding and cleaning up your diet. It may not be as fast, but it's healthier. It's tough to ride much on a low carb diet. So you'd have to lose weight now and wait till later to do much riding. That will make it take longer to get into riding shape.
You're right about the key difference between low-carb and other diets. It's pretty hard to exercise at a very high intensity without carbs. Atkins is mostly based on people getting sick of eating the same greasy foods every day, and then caloric consumption falls. Fatty, protein-rich foods are also good at satisfying hunger.

As far as Atkins and the like being less healthy, I would tend to agree, but not for the reasons most people think of first. At a year (the longest studies I am aware of on the topic), Atkins is great for net weight loss, and blood lipids don't really seem to be affected (there is debate on current measures of cholesterol and cardiovascular disease, too, though...). I see issues with decreased phytochemical intake. There are others, like possible increase of heme iron, sodium, and preservative exposure. Nitrates aren't so bad in themselves, but nitrosamines (which are formed during cooking of cured meats) are suspected of being pretty gnarly.

To the OP: fried pizza isn't weird at all. I'd bet almost all of as have eaten at Pizza Hut. Ever notice how golden brown and greasy the thick crust is? It's essentially fried in the pan. Don't feel so bad, and good luck.
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To the OP: fried pizza isn't weird at all. I'd bet almost all of as have eaten at Pizza Hut. Ever notice how golden brown and greasy the thick crust is? It's essentially fried in the pan. Don't feel so bad, and good luck.
I suspect he meant that he deep fried his pizza, not just sizzled the pizza in a frying pan for a moment.
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I suspect he meant that he deep fried his pizza, not just sizzled the pizza in a frying pan for a moment.
Maybe. I thought about that, but deep frying pizza at home seems like a lot of trouble to through, and it also doesn't seem like it would work very well.

I could see someone reheating leftover pizza by frying it in a pan. Sounds pretty good, actually.
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Maybe. I thought about that, but deep frying pizza at home seems like a lot of trouble to through, and it also doesn't seem like it would work very well.

I could see someone reheating leftover pizza by frying it in a pan. Sounds pretty good, actually.
Put the slice of pizza in the basket, lower it into the boiling oil ... that's how my ex's family did the cinnamon rolls.
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Hypothetically speaking, what type of oil would be used? Canola? Having been deprived of deep frying anything at home, the idea of deep fried pizza sounds disgustingly apprealling. Kind of like frying toast in bacon grease.

Now my mouth is watering and I'll have to be extra good this weekend!
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+1 for salads just don't forget some protein

also simple carbs before exercise will help you (like a small box of raisins)

what is your current height; weight and age?

be careful not to "deny" yourself or your plans will backfire.
keep the cr*p out of your house and work space
stock up on decent foods that you actually like
overeating even good food can be stored as fat

be patient; be positive and do no harm (to yourself)
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The mental change is the hard one. Only if YOU want it, really, will you be successful.

Read up here on different diet discussions. Basically, eat like you would harvest it yourself. Avoid processed stuff.
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I disagree about low carb diets. You can lose weight by riding and cleaning up your diet. It may not be as fast, but it's healthier. It's tough to ride much on a low carb diet. So you'd have to lose weight now and wait till later to do much riding. That will make it take longer to get into riding shape.
I agree with cutting out most of the garbage in your diet. Like others have said you have to have some rewards. If you are really serious about weight loss try cutting out beer. I have done that and it has produced drastic results. I eat as much food as I want to and just burn it in exercise....which sadly has been my trainer and treadmill with winter still firmly holding on here. Fat loss takes time so be patient. It can takes weeks before even slight results are seen. Eating fried pizza every once in a while will not make you fat.
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Well the low point came last week. I fried some pizza. Yes I fried some pizza. Looking back at that it was one of the greatest things I have ever eaten. But something that I should have never put in my gut.
Fried pizza?? Awesome. All we can hope is Pizza Hut, Domino's or Papa John's aren't members of BF's. That would be on their menus tonight.

Congrats on getting back to a healthier lifestyle....well if you were eating "fried pizza" you obviously have style!!!
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OK - now I have to know. how do you make fried pizza?
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Would you bread the pizza before frying? Like dipping it into egg, then rolling in flour, then dropping it into the grease?
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Would you bread the pizza before frying? Like dipping it into egg, then rolling in flour, then dropping it into the grease?

good god, have none of you here ever seen a panzerotti?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzarotti
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I baked the pizza normally. After it got cold and I got hungry I just placed it in the deep frier. It came out really well. Let the extra grease dip off and I was good to go.
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I guess part of my confusion stemmed from the fact that I do not own a deep fryer, or other tools to deep fry anything. I would never think to buy one. I assumed the same of others
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I don't own a deep fryer either. I don't know if I've ever owned one. But my ex's family sure did. It was one of their favourite ways to cook things.
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My ex-husband's family had a favourite desert. They baked cinnamon rolls - huge ones, probably 5" across and absolutely loaded with sugar, cinnamon, and raisins and things. But that wasn't enough. They took those cinnamon rolls, and deep fried them until they were almost soggy with grease, and then drowned them in icing.

I have only ever had one of those things ... but even though something like 15 years has passed since then, I'm sure my body is still trying to clear out my arteries from that!! I have to say, however, it tasted GREAT!!

Get out and ride!! Burn off the calories from that fried pizza!! I got into long distance cycling soon after eating that cinnamon roll monstrosity.
Only YOU can prevent fried pizzas.

They go in the box underneath unless they microwave.
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I baked the pizza normally. After it got cold and I got hungry I just placed it in the deep frier. It came out really well. Let the extra grease dip off and I was good to go.
COLD PIZZA IS THE FOOD OF THE GODS! Treat it like your own, never fry, microwave it warm again if you must, then EAT! It will never give you grandchildren.
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