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Old 09-04-04, 03:12 PM   #1
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my abs are sticking out!

I have started doing a core-strength routine lately, twice a week, doing exercises for the abs, lower back and obliques, although I've noticed someting odd--my abs are sticking out. it looks like a gut, only up higher, and theres a six-pack on it. I dont have a whole lot of body fat. maybe 10%. anyway, I think this is kinda weird. are my abs just getting bigger and stronger? I've never seen anybody else's abs do that. does anyone else have this happen?
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Old 09-04-04, 06:16 PM   #2
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I have spent a lot of time this last year working on core strengthening exercises. Incline sit-ups, roman chair leg raises, incline leg raises, "bicycles", back extensions, V-Ups, crunches, etc. My abdomen is rock hard but it is significantly thicker than when I started. I actually had a thinner waist before I began working it out. However, on the up side, I have a lot of muscle development and a very strong core.
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Old 09-04-04, 09:55 PM   #3
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Why are you surprised that the muscles you are training are growing? Take a close look at those elite body builders in the magazines. These guys have some thick waists but the muscle separation, definition and vascularity is what you notice. Plus, compared to the massiveness of everything else, their midsections, while thick, don't look out of proportion. If you see guys like this in street clothes (and not in contest shape) they do look like they have guts.
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I think the problem is he's focused on that area too much and it looks like he's pregnant...
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Old 09-05-04, 06:17 AM   #5
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well, not quite pregnant, but its a little higher then that. but they're almost out to my pecs.

and park...I dunno, I just guess i thought that they would just get more toned...maybe wider? i have pretty thin abs (looking at them frontways)
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My abs are sticking out also, but there is about 10 lbs. of fat in front of them.
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Old 09-05-04, 09:32 AM   #7
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My abs are sticking out also, but there is about 10 lbs. of fat in front of them.
yea...there are quite a few with that problem...
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My abs are sticking out also, but there is about 10 lbs. of fat in front of them.
Well, I don't have a lot of fat. I just have big intestines.
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Tell me about it.

I wanted abs really bad. I have them, they are huge. However, I look like a barrell. Thats from doing crunches with four 45 # plates.

Be careful what you ask for.
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heh, well, I mostly want the strength around the core. i almost already had a six pack, but I'm doing crunches to try and balance with the back work I'm doing.
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Hi Phatman, wondering if you could point me in the right direction for some 'core' exercises - maybe a sample week of your training program. I have just started my three month build up for an annual cycle race held in NZ, this year I want to focus on my core stability and strength. Appreciate your advice.
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I've been doing crunches (3x90) leg lifts (3x30) back extensions (3x20...I cant do more then 20 at a time) and I've been working my obliques by holding a weight in one hand and sort of bending my torso to one side, if you can picture that. I do 3x30 on each side for that. And thats about it. It actually takes a while, the crunches are what take the longest.
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What about Swiss-ball exersises, arn't they suppost to be good for core strenght ?
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Try a tip from pilates and yoga, and suck your stomach in while doing crunches. It should fix things over time. The distended abs look is kind of disturbing and I've read it doesn't stabilize the core quite as much as abs that are tight to the core. It does give greater leverage for doing crunch type exercise which is probably what causes it.
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that link says this among other things (and i'm not dissing the link, mind you):
"You should cut out all excess simple sugars, lower your dairy intake and eliminate excess saturated fats."

i'm curious about that first part - since i've gotten up to riding about 100 miles per week i've become a bit of gatorade junky. most of my rides are 1.5 to 3.5hrs long so i thought i was doing the right thing to get about a bottle of gatorade per hour.

i wonder how to reconcile the idea that sugars are bad for a diet but important for keeping your energy tapped off throughout rides. i imagine that for me i'm lucky if i can get the calories per day for all the exercise i'm doing. i drink sports drinks pretty recklessly these days and i'm wondering if maybe i should stick to water when i'm off the bike or not training in some way.
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What about Swiss-ball exersises, arn't they suppost to be good for core strenght ?
i um...dont have a swiss ball.
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Old 09-09-04, 01:19 PM   #17
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Abs are all about diet, really.

http://www.fatlosstips.com/abs.html

I used this method. It worked.
well, considering that I can see my abs...i dont think its a fat thing. they just stick out.
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I've been doing crunches (3x90) leg lifts (3x30) back extensions (3x20...I cant do more then 20 at a time) and I've been working my obliques by holding a weight in one hand and sort of bending my torso to one side, if you can picture that. I do 3x30 on each side for that. And thats about it. It actually takes a while, the crunches are what take the longest.
Here are a few popular exercise myths that I recently posted on another cycling forum. Hope this helps.

WEIGHT TRAINING MYTHS:
It's a myth that you should do hundreds of reps of crunches or any other abdominal exercise -- your abs, like all other muscles in your body, respond best to PROGRESSIVE RESISTANCE training. You wouldn't do 150 reps per set for your biceps. Don't do the same for the abs. It is a waste of time. Also, you do not need to train abs every day as some bodybuilders (Frank Zane comes to mind) of the 60's and 70's have made popular.

It's also a myth that you can "isolate" the upper from the lower abs -- electromyographic studies show that the minute you apply resistance, both your upper and lower abdominals kick into action together.

Another popular myth is that going for the pump or the burn or the "feel" is what builds muscle mass. There is absolutely no scientific evidence to support this position. There have been many a powerlifter and olympic lifter that have built incredible physiques doing no more than 6 reps per set.

And here's one of my favorite myths. Day after and second day soreness is what builds muscle. In fact, by microtraumatizing the muscle tissues enough to cause them to rupture you have accomplished one thing - tissue destruction not tissue growth.
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