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    Or indeed anything resembling it. Those who have read my posts down the years will know that heat is the one thing I complain about more than all other things combined (and that's saying a lot!). However, I'm beginning to think the problem may be with me rather than the conditions. I noticed it again today on my ride, when I actually found the Burringbar Range difficult in temperatures of just 26 degrees C. Granted, it was humid with a headwind, and I did have 150km in my legs already, but this was a climb that I fatally owned just three months ago in the cooler weather.

    My regular riding partner (who has a bigger build than I do incidentally) can't get near me on a bike during the cooler months, but come summer time, I'm the one trying to keep up. I drink ridiculous quantities of water (often exceeding 10 litres a day) -- even when I'm not riding massive distances. When I visited the much cooler Tasmania last year, it took me 6 weeks to re-acclimatise to the heat when I returned home (compared to just three days to adjust to Tasmanian conditions). Who the hell takes 6 weeks to "re-acclimatise" to a climate they've lived in for a decade (I was only gone for a month)?

    A "good night's sleep" in summer is anything exceeding 4 hours, yet I don't have this problem in "winter". Heck, my thermometer is telling me it's only about 23 degrees C now, but I feel like turning on the fan -- this happens frequently.

    On the other side of the coin, I'm the absolute last one to reach for arm-warmers or any extra layers when the temperature drops (rare around here). I have no fear of "getting cold" when it rains (which seems to be a factor for just about everyone else I've ever ridden with). I've said on the forum repeatedly that 12 degrees C is the ideal temperature for human habitation, and I mean it! In short, I seem totally unable to handle the heat, but seem much happier when the temperature drops.

    Those who have met me or seen any of the pictures of myself I've posted on these forums will know that I don't have a lot of body fat. I'm the best part of 6' tall, but I only weigh 62kg. Shouldn't this mean that I'd be more comfortable in the warm weather than the cooler weather? Or does the notorious Queensland humidity throw all of that out the window (I grew up in a much drier climate)?

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    I live in a much cooler climate, but when we get a week or so of very high temps in the summer (although not this year), I too cannot sleep, especially when the humidity goes up. I think that drier climates are easier to live in when the thermometer goes up, but then again, I am used to having to deal with snow, bitter cold, and low humidity.
    Guess you'll just have to move to the north pole!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterKat
    Guess you'll just have to move to the north pole!
    Right now that's very tempting. Geez, almost 9pm and it's still hot! I think I'll go and take a cold shower before bed -- or at least as cold as the water coming out will let me.
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    Air conditioning, Chris?

    You can't keep going on 4 hours of sleep - no way!

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    There are rainforests there. It is probably a humid heat. ? You live on the coast, that has not effect..Humid heat at 23- low 80's in the US...? That can feel hot, particularily after coming out of winter.Turn on the fan.

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    Chris, you sound like my SO. He is like you. And I suspect it may be a supercharged metabolism (well that's my present theory since he eats 4 plates of food at night and doesn't gain an ounce). He loves cycling in cooler weather and hates the warm/humid type days. Anything above 22 C and it's too hot for him.

    I'm the exact opposite. I love the warmer weather and tend to thrive well in it when cycling (unless it's a super oppressive smog day). But when it starts getting into those single digit temps, I dislike it (my extremities in particular are subject to cold weather for some reason no matter how many layers I put on).

    Anyways, it's not just you.

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    I'm the exact opposite. today it was 70 degrees riding, and i busted out the leg warmers. later into the ride, I put on arm warmers. The heat doesn't bother me at all, but when it starts to get chilly, it feels like someone just came and attached a rope to the back of my bike. I just cant seem to put out the power.

    And its not like a I dont sweat in the heat, either. I get absoultely drenched. I'm dripping by the time I get back, but I feel fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatman
    I'm the exact opposite. today it was 70 degrees riding, and i busted out the leg warmers. later into the ride, I put on arm warmers. The heat doesn't bother me at all, but when it starts to get chilly, it feels like someone just came and attached a rope to the back of my bike. I just cant seem to put out the power.

    And its not like a I dont sweat in the heat, either. I get absoultely drenched. I'm dripping by the time I get back, but I feel fine.
    70F is shirtless or sleeveless around here!

    Interesting to what we become acclimated!

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    How often to you get out for extended periods of time in the heat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterKat
    Guess you'll just have to move to the north pole!
    The south pole would be a shorter trip for him.

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    I used to be strictly a cool weather guy - hated the heat. One day it all changed. I have no idea why, but I'm quite sure it has to do with cycling. I used to be the one that would whimper & whine as soon as it got above 70F. Now I thrive on it. I notice that on cooler days it is difficult to get my heart-rate up as well. On warmer days, it jumps right up to where it needs to be. I've grown to think that it has something to do with my body getting warmed-up quicker & that somehow translates to better performance. I also think that it has something to do with getting leaner as well. My climate is cool a LOT more than it is warm, so maybe that is another factor. MsMittens might be on to something with her metabolism theory as well. Mine has ALWAYS been a bit slow & I have had to battle my weight my whole life.

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    Being overweight and lathargic in hot climates, but that certainly does not describe Chris..This year I found myself , commuting inland into the heat, doing somewhat better...I rode one day in the high 90's and made it ok, with a minimum of complaining..
    But, ours normally is a dry heat. In dry heat, I can cope up until about 95.. Loose weight helps, but that steam heat is too much.Like being in a pressure cooker...
    What advice is there other than hybernating in the AC of hydrating oneself.

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    I don't have the answer, but I've gotta say that I'm the same. Even back when I used to race, I wouldn't do so if it was over 26 or 27. I know that's pretty piss poor, but I knew I wouldn't do any good.

    My ideal "hammering" weather is about 12 to 14 degrees (~55F), and I struggle going flat out when it's over 19 or 20 -- I can do it, but my head feels like it's gunna explode. If it's in the low 20s with the sun out, I'm hopeless. My situation improves a little as I become acclimatised to the warm weather, but still...

    As far as dress goes, I wear full summer gear right down to 13 degrees (one shirt, no gloves, no arm-warmers, no booties...nothin'). I think about wearing gloves when it's 11 or 12, and at 11 or less I wear two light tops, gloves, arm-warmers and booties, but still no leg warmers -- I won't wear them unless it's below 5 degrees.

    And then there's humidity....BOLLOCKS!!! That's a whole other story...."forget about it"

    I should say though, that at 5'11.5", and 87kg, I have a nice layer of blubber to keep me warm.
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    I feel much the same way.

    An example. I've been walking and slow jogging all summer.

    In July, with temps of around 20-25C (70-80F), I could manage a 7-8 km fast walk, and almost no jogging (a tenth of the total distance, on a good day).
    When I got back home, my head hurt from the heat build-up.

    In early September, with temps down to 13-15C (55-60F), I was able to run for 5-6 km, and walk for another 6-7 km, and get back with little or no pain.

    And that's not from improved stamina or body adaption, as I walk like that all year round. It's all to do with temperature (and humidity, to be fair).

    I begin to feel sick just sitting still in 25C+ temps (80F+), and I can't eat or sleep properly. Not at all nice.

    Ireland (where I lived for two years) was almost perfect for me.
    The summers were short and relatively cool, and the winters were also short, and not really cold. My coldest morning in Cork City registered at -2C (29F), but it generally stayed above +5-7C (40-45F). January 20th, 2002 offered a 19C (66F) high!!! People wore short sleeves!
    In between the summers and winters, there was perfect mild and cool weather.
    And it doesn't rain a lot in Ireland, it only rains often. Don't confuse the terms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomM
    The south pole would be a shorter trip for him.
    Tasmania is halfway, and an ideal spot.

    Chris, fair skin, low body fat on a smallish frame, large skin area compared with volume (reverse of an elephant) and a very active metabolism probably means you will continue to suffer forever in the heat. The skin/body volume ratio shouldn't be underestimated because you don't have the surface area to dissipate the heat.

    I know that I could not have lived on coast in Cairns when in FNQ. Just commuting (by motor vehicle -- this was pre-bike days) down the range from Atherton into the humidity and the sun glare for three months was enough to give me monumental migraines -- and I had never had them in my life before. Atherton was OK because the altitude moderated the temperatures a little, but more so, the humidity was much, much less (except during the Wet).

    Perth was a different, drier heat. But I didn't get used to sitting in a pool of sweat all the time in summer.

    Hobart has a nice temperate climate, not too cold, not too hot... just right.

    I'll keep an eye open for any accounting jobs down here for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DnvrFox
    Air conditioning, Chris?

    You can't keep going on 4 hours of sleep - no way!
    Can't get full on air-conditioning in this apartment, but I did buy a fan last year. It helped on some of the warmer nights (for warmer nights, read overnight minimum 33 degrees C), but it has it's limitations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank B
    How often to you get out for extended periods of time in the heat?
    Let's see, summer lasts for around 6-7 months here (or at least, what I consider hot), I generally get at least one 100km+ ride in each weekend (220km yesterday). Having lived here for a decade, I don't think "not being used to it" could really be a factor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan
    Hobart has a nice temperate climate, not too cold, not too hot... just right.

    I'll keep an eye open for any accounting jobs down here for you.
    That is does. I'm pretty sure my next move will be to a cooler climate -- wherever that may be.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsMittens
    Chris, you sound like my SO. He is like you. And I suspect it may be a supercharged metabolism (well that's my present theory since he eats 4 plates of food at night and doesn't gain an ounce). He loves cycling in cooler weather and hates the warm/humid type days. Anything above 22 C and it's too hot for him.
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    I'm in the same boat. I compete in a local XC race series that has weekly races in the evening, and do very well at it (2nd in the points accross all cats!). However the provincial races which take place on Sunday afternoons in the blazing prairie sun I race in Sport category and have a tough time placing in the top 3. On a 10C day I can ride in my lycra shorts and no-sleeve jersey just fine. In fact the tights and jackets don't come out until about 5C. On the flip side I raced a cross race last Saturday in 24C weather, it was an hour race and was VERY difficult! I was short of water, could have easily drank my 1L bottle in the first 30min, and the 'heat' was realy slowing me down. Other people I race/ride with love the heat, and underperform in the cool, I guess it just adds another dynamic to my riding and racing.

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    You don't do well in the heat because you whine about it. Stop whining, and go out and embrace the heat. Stay hydrated, keep up on your electrolytes and go out in the heat more often. Much of heat tolerance is mental.
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    If you've ever suffered from heat exhaustion or heat stroke you will be much more sensitive to the heat in the future. Just like if you suffered from frost bite the cold will affect you to a higher degree. I've had both heat exhaustion and frost bite. I can't get past the cold, but I easily cope with the heat now. I just forced myself to go for runs during the hottest part of the day. Here in Atlanta, GA that can mean 90 to 100+ degrees. Eventually my tolerance to heat grew. It really helped with my motorcycle road racing. If you think riding your Mtn. Bike in 90 degree weather sucks try wearing full leathers while sitting on a 220 degree bike with a track tempurature of 140+ degrees. It's hotter than hell out there! Luckily you cool down a little when you hit 150-160MPH on the front straights!


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    at the moment its 26.5C and I feel cool. If its under 20C I have trouble convincing myself to get out from under the doona, it's just too cold. Today's ride was in the 30somethings and I would have been lucky to drink a litre of water in a couple of hours. I can't believe some of you guys actually like temps in the teens, let alone under. I've never noticed a performance difference unless it is really hot, as in 38C+ and high humidity. I just have to drink alot more.
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    Maybe you should sauna daily, to push your body into dealing with the heat? Reducing bodyfat even further wouldn't hurt. Maybe you are hyperthyroid? Any massive goiters you neglected to mention? Perhaps have that checked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crunkologist
    Maybe you should sauna daily, to push your body into dealing with the heat? Reducing bodyfat even further wouldn't hurt.
    Those who know me would point out that about the only way I could reduce my body fat any further would be to amputate something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunkologist
    Maybe you are hyperthyroid? Any massive goiters you neglected to mention? Perhaps have that checked?
    Now there's a word I haven't heard before. What does hyperthyroid mean?
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    Here's a chapter on excercising in the heat:
    http://www.clinicalsportsmedicine.com/chapters/48a.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris L
    Those who know me would point out that about the only way I could reduce my body fat any further would be to amputate something.



    Now there's a word I haven't heard before. What does hyperthyroid mean?
    Hyperthyroidism is when your thyroid releases too much thyroid hormone, causing your metabolism to be excessively high and imparting heat sensitivity. There are numerous other side effects, though. I can't find a good web page on it, but when you're in your doc's office next, you could ask about it. There's a simple blood test.

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    I really like the warm, humid weather- i peak in mid summer. It's cold, dry weather that sets my nerves on edge. I hate the wind biting at my face. However, the good things about winter are that you sleep better, you have more energy. BUt for dealing with heat, no way I wouldn't have an AC in my bedroom. That helps me wake refreshed and rested even after the hottest nights.
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