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    Another Heart Rate Question (sry) :)

    Today, I went on a charity ride for a good cause. It was small, 100 bikers. We had 3 routes as most do, 25,40 and 65. I had opted for the 40 since I have done 32 before and since Im realitively new at biking.

    Let me set the pace for ya, Im 30 years old, Ex smoker (WOOOOOOOO) since july 04' and have started eating much better in hopes that I could possibly extend my life to see my 3 daughters grow up and so on and so fourth. Well, today, I realized just how bad of shape I was in. I weighed 220 pounds on july 31st. Today, I weigh in just a Tad under 200 pounds. I have purchased a new trek and Have joyfully put 220 miles on it since july. All except for the 32 mile ride, my route has been 15-20 depending on the time I had in that particular day.

    As the run started this morning, it was 42* and very windy, something I was not acustomed to. A pack of 20 riders started in front of me, I was in a pack of 20 and a mile or so back, another few packs of 10 or so. I kept up well for the 1st 6 miles until we got to the hills. The first hill was a short but steep switch back. Before the hill, ( a 1/4 mile or so) I just finished playing catch up to the pack so I could get a pull to make it easier on me for the upcoming hill. That sent my heart rate up to around 155. When Im riding at home, 150 is my normal spinning heart rate and Ive never seen more than 182. Well, After catching the pack, The switchback came, I downshifted and stood up again to make the hill.

    At the top of the hill I had been left by the 1st pack and the second pack was screaming "on your left" as they were coming thru. I glanced at my heart rate readout and it was flashing 192. Thats after I sat by down annd shifted into granny. No telling what it was while I was climbing. By focusing on my pack, seeing them pull away, I had no thoughts but to try to keep up. I didnt fell dizzy, or any pain, I just got worried that since my Max HR was 191 that I may have pushed a little to hard. Im 5'9.5 200 pounds. Not lean , not a lard ass but not really fit either. My friends say Im a Tony Stewart replica so to speak.

    Anyhow, Afterwards and all the ride, everytime I pushed to get in the groove, I felt sick and had to sit back down, I opted to take the shorter 25 miler instead of the 40 because of my weezy sick feeling.

    Whats the deal? Is it just way to early for me to push that hard or am I still in such bad cardiovascular shape that I need to just work on it through the winter? I didnt like the feeling of my MAX HR being 191 and my monitor reading 192. Am I too conscious of the monitor? I really dont want to die right now if you get my drift then on the same hand, I didnt like being passed by the mountain bikers, seniors and the heavyweights. One guy passed me that weighed no less than 325 pounds.

    I've had a tracer Dye stress test, My cardiolite was fine. Had a full physical and another yearly coming up Nov 2nd.

    Am I ok? or just think I should be better than what I am and need to get in better shape.

    As I type, Im thinking the ladder of the 2, Im just plain out of shape and need to work on it.

    Please, tell me what you think, If I thought this would go unanswered, I would not have spent 30 minutes typing (Im all thumbs) so thanks for all the help in advance.

    C

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    Don't be too concerned with what your max heart rate SHOULD be. The 220-age is more like a +/- 15 figure (even more for some). If your monitor said 192 and you were working very hard, your max heart rate is probably more like 195 or possibly even more.

    As far as the weezy sick feeling... try to do some sprints or hard climbs in training. Your body probably just wasn't used to using the anaerobic system and wanted to let you know. If you routinely get your heart up into the 180's during training a couple times a week, you probably won't get sick anymore.

    Hope this helps. I don't think you have anything to be concerned about! Keep riding.

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    Well, First, I'd say congratulations quitting smoking. I quit four years ago, and believe me, I know how hard it is. However, you haven't been a non-smoker for that long, so your cardio is probably still pretty shot, I'd think. From my experience, I was 340 lbs. a little over a year ago. Back in those days, it was nothing for me to see a HR of over 200. Now abot 7,000 miles later, I'm a lean, mean 160. I can tell you that I rarely see a HR of over 185 (usually only at the final sprint during a race, and then it'll only hit 189, max). If you're using the old 220-age formula, then I'd have a max HR of 195 (I'm 25). However, max heart rate goes down as you become more fit, so that would explain why it was so high when I was fat and so low now. If you're using the same formula, then it may very well be way off for you, too. I wouldn't worry too much about your heart rate soaring. You won't die or anything.
    If I were you, I would keep trying to build up base miles by riding long, slow distances at about 60-70% of your max HR. I would mix that up with some anaerobic interval training once or twice per week. I'm doing that on the trainer every other day right now, using the Spinervals "Suffer-O-Rama" DVD (we don't have the luxury of hills here in Indy). This gives you the power to tap when you need to do short, steep climbs or sprints, where you approach your max HR.
    I'm no coach or anything. This is just what has worked for me in becoming better over the past six or seven months. Hope it helps.
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    thx alot!

    Ive seen your pic bpohl

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    Update:

    Ive ridden pretty hard the last few days, As I was ending my ride tonight, at or about the 15th mile, I came to one of the steepest hills on this particular route which we call simply Hodges Mill road, because thats its name lol. Anyhow, its a granny gear for me, its 3/4 a mile long and steep and winding.

    I used the wrong approach from the get go. Coming into the climb, Theres a huge superfast downhill leading to the base of the climb. I was running 38.8 mph when I hit the base of the hill and so I stood up, vowing to attack like a mofo.

    Big mistake, I ran out of steam before even half way, I sit down and busted her into granny mode. Almost at the top, I felt like my legs were going to explode, I had NO breath and I felt like my heart was doing 225 easy.

    I looked down and my monitor said 167. I was like DANG!

    So, evendently, im getting a little more cardio fit and my heart is not needing to work so hard to get the blood to the needed places. Also, yes, I have vowed to ride 3-4 times per week even if its around the block. Even a week off the bike will kill you cardio wise.

    Thanks for all the help you guys!
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_heath
    ....I felt like my heart was doing 225 easy.

    I looked down and my monitor said 167. I was like DANG!
    Yeah, it always surprises me how little your heart rate may change, even when your perceived effort skyrockets. Glad to hear that things are getting better for you. Keep up teh good work!
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    Standing up doing 40 mph is usually not a good idea unless you can tuck yourself into an aerodynamic position. I'd stay seated until you get down to the low 20's. The wind can knock a few mph's off awfully quickly when your going that fast.

    The aggressiveness sounds good though! It'll keep gettin' easier.

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