Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Training & Nutrition Learn how to develop a training schedule that's good for you. What should you eat and drink on your ride? Learn everything you need to know about training and nutrition here.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-08-11, 10:14 AM   #1
bluefoxicy
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Baltimore, MD
Bikes: 2010 GT Tachyon 3.0
Posts: 1,212
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Nestle Pure Life commercial

They are freaking crazy.

There's a TV in my office now, please shut it off.

I just watched a commercial where some 10 year old girl is like, "Wait, if we're losing water, why not just drink water?!"

How insightful.

That's why you're 10 years old, kid. You don't know @^*%.

And her mom, typical brainless soccer mom, "OH! GOOD IDEA! ARTIFICIAL COLORS AND CHEMICALS, HOW HORRIBLE!" and gets the water.

Then the announcer starts talking about how "nothing hydrates like water."

Well, that's technically true. Nothing is quite as dangerous and potentially fatal as water. Or as hard to swallow down, for that matter. I haven't encountered much that my body will actually resist ingesting when I'm desperately thirsty. Soda, I like soda, but yeah that's going to go into the "worse" bin; carbonated water is bad.

We have all these electrolyte drinks, sports drinks with sugar, and the like. There is a reason for this. When you sweat, you lose salt. You lose sodium. You burn through magnesium and potassium and calcium to run your heart.

When I bike, my sweat sometimes drips in my mouth by some magic. The stuff running down my face is more toxic than the Dead Sea; the salt content is enough that a drop of sweat landing on my tongue is literally painful, to a small degree, and even will irritate my eyes. I guzzle electrolyte water, which of course probably elevates me beyond what I need; it doesn't matter, it comes out. If it dries on my skin, sometimes I find I'm all gritty and grimy and dry, like I'm dusted with salt. I have a coworker that sweats and as it dries it turns white because of the salt content of his sweat.

If you don't replace the electrolytes, you will die. For little kids on soccer teams, this isn't much of a problem. Gatorade was invented for a high school football team by a biologist who was doing performance tuning; the worst you get forcing water into 10 year olds is 10 year olds that run themselves ragged and maybe get a few more injuries, possibly serious ones, due to fatigue and mistakes (like tripping over your own foot and spraining an ankle). They will do far better on something like Gatorade or Power Aid--which supply electrolytes and sugar--or Nuun or Zim or whatnot--which bypass the sugar, although sugar is good. Some amateurs have found that water isn't helping when they're horribly sore and beaten, and then they eat a potato chip and it's like they just met God.

If you're running a marathon or you're biking hundreds of miles and you're guzzling water like crazy, eventually you'll remove enough salt that your brain swells up from water absorption into the cells and you die. This was a big thing decades ago, before we figured out water is really bad for you.

I don't get it. Somehow we figured out that eating bricks of salt is a horrible idea (maybe because it's painful and causes your skin to peel), but it's still "common knowledge" that water is "the best thing to drink when you're dehydrated." Pure water has the worst absorption rate of anything else in water; if you drink 3L of water at once every hour, you'll piss clear, almost pure water after a few bathroom trips--if you don't die first. It runs right through your body, gets into your blood, gets sucked up by the kidneys and dumped into the bladder. If you drink fast enough, you water down your blood and die. And even then, a good remedy for constipation is (get this) drinking a lot of extra water, as it'll soften ... yeah, okay, it goes in one end and comes out the other, you can give yourself diarrhea doing this.

Sometimes I wonder if the people writing these ads believe their own bull****. Sometimes I wonder how the public actually takes the bait on this ****, because you meet all kinds of die-hard runners and cyclists that won't touch "that chemical water stuff" and only drink bottled municipality water (i.e. Dasani, bottled tap water).

Then again, Coca-Cola is pretty popular among professional cyclists these days. No joke, they carry a bottle of coke as an "energy shot" type drink while cycling. Sugar, water, cherry. Cherry Coke! What the hell?

Last edited by bluefoxicy; 06-08-11 at 02:22 PM.
bluefoxicy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-11, 01:07 PM   #2
billyymc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 911
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Ok, so water = bad. Right, got it.

That's why I take my water with malted barley, yeast, and hops. The plain stuff is more dangerous than crack.

Disclaimer, I didn't read most of your post. Who has that kind of time?
billyymc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-11, 02:22 PM   #3
bluefoxicy
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Baltimore, MD
Bikes: 2010 GT Tachyon 3.0
Posts: 1,212
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
Ok, so water = bad. Right, got it.

That's why I take my water with malted barley, yeast, and hops. The plain stuff is more dangerous than crack.

Disclaimer, I didn't read most of your post. Who has that kind of time?
I tend to avoid homebrew when riding. Caffeine and alcohol aren't generally things I take in when I'm exerting myself.
bluefoxicy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-11, 04:34 PM   #4
scroca 
commuter and barbarian
 
scroca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Potomac, MT, USA
Bikes:
Posts: 2,499
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluefoxicy View Post
That's why you're 10 years old, kid. You don't know @^*%.

And her mom, typical brainless soccer mom
I'd put most 10 year olds up against you in a logic contest.
__________________
2015 Seven Cycles Expat SL
2011 Felt Q620
2010 Motobecane Jury fixed gear
2010 Surly LHT
1992 Trek 1200
1977 Schwinn Le Tour II fixed gear
scroca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-11, 08:10 PM   #5
Joemess
Space for rent
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: South East
Bikes:
Posts: 278
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Wut?
Joemess is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:23 AM.